Final Cut Pro X: A Look From Past to Present to Future (Complete Footage)

Overall it did seem pretty unbiased, which I appreciated.
And I agree, that it was a pretty impressive demo of FCPX. Made me want to try my next edit in it.
 
I thought it was interesting how he demonstrated how do accomplish Multicam using the Synchronize Clip feature at about 42:00 into the video
 
I thought it was interesting how he didn't include professional broadcast monitoring in the "lacking features" segment and graphic, but talks about this at the end, saying there's a beta driver from a Kona card- which we all know is just doing a mirror desktop. I also find it funny when he says at the end "if you go premiere (...) you'll go back to dual monitor screens layout" as it was a bad thing.

Also its interesting when he's entering metadata and looking for the "testee" clip when he set duration, nothing came up on the search. At least it looked like that to me.

And also look how conveninetly he went for Apple's Audi clips for the match color feature to say how great it is, and didn't use it on his narrative piece. Why is that?

Also, "Everything is exactly the same as in FCP7 on export". I'm curious to know why he didn't open the export movie option...

I'm sorry to say but this is as unbiased as a fox news report.
 
SPZ said:
I thought it was interesting how he didn't include professional broadcast monitoring in the "lacking features" segment and graphic, but talks about this at the end, saying there's a beta driver from a Kona card- which we all know is just doing a mirror desktop. I also find it funny when he says at the end "if you go premiere (...) you'll go back to dual monitor screens layout" as it was a bad thing.

Also its interesting when he's entering metadata and looking for the "testee" clip when he set duration, nothing came up on the search. At least it looked like that to me.

And also look how conveninetly he went for Apple's Audi clips for the match color feature to say how great it is, and didn't use it on his narrative piece. Why is that?

Also, "Everything is exactly the same as in FCP7 on export". I'm curious to know why he didn't open the export movie option...

I'm sorry to say but this is as unbiased as a fox news report.
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What's your point? Of course he's biased for FCP X, just as you are biased against FCP X. It's still a great demonstration of what FCP X can do.

The fact is, even with stuff like XML missing now, FCP X is a powerful, advanced NLE. I will say it again, Avid and Premiere will be implementing some of the powerful new features of FCP X to catch up. Having used features like audition and keywording, I don't think I can go back to using an NLE that doesn;t have them.
 
It's also good to have the history lesson at the start to show how FCP1-7 evolved. I expect FCPX to do the same thing.
 
Spz
i thought it was interesting how he didn't include professional broadcast monitoring in the "lacking features" segment and graphic, but talks about this at the end, saying there's a beta driver from a kona card- which we all know is just doing a mirror desktop. I also find it funny when he says at the end "if you go premiere (...) you'll go back to dual monitor screens layout" as it was a bad thing.

Also its interesting when he's entering metadata and looking for the "testee" clip when he set duration, nothing came up on the search. At least it looked like that to me.

And also look how conveninetly he went for apple's audi clips for the match color feature to say how great it is, and didn't use it on his narrative piece. Why is that?

Also, "everything is exactly the same as in fcp7 on export". I'm curious to know why he didn't open the export movie option...

I'm sorry to say but this is as unbiased as a fox news report.
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+1
 
So much of this exchange reminds me of the last two lines of the opening refrain for Simon and Garfunkel's "The Boxer."

I wonder if you must be objective in order to claim that someone else isn't objective.
 
As some of you know I like FCPX and used it successful on some larger projects already.

But this presentation is not really telling the truth. It is flashy and all, but SPZ is right there are some flaws in his presentation.

Mostly he often says: it is there, just like it was. Well, yes, many things are there, but it is not like it was. There are many features that bury FCP7 and some other NLEs, but there are also features missing or implemented half-assed (like the noise reduction).

And all the automatic stuff.....doesn´t work reliable. The auto-sync (apple´s plural eyes) works, but not always and I tried and could´t use it as a replacement for multi cam. you can use secondary storylines for that, but it is not the same.

Auto-balance, recognize people-count, match-color....works not very reliable to me. and the worst....if you do a match-color and it actually works and you want to tweak it: you don´t see what FCP changed. the color-board is on zero.

these are true consumer tools. if they work fine, if not , does´t matter. But you can´t throw 400 dailies at it and be safe. you still need to check every clip, so you better do it yourself anyway.....

So....yes FCPX is great and it will be even better and it can be used already.....but it is nowhere near "it´s there just like it was" and many flashy features are not that flashy really. What´s flashy is the editing and he did not show much of it.
and he calls "connect clip" "append clip" which is something different.
 
audio sync is WHACKY! unreliable. dont know what the speaker in this video is doing to claim success where many other people are claiming non success.

david
 
Audio sync works great with me. I use it for syncing 7D with H4N audio and it saves a lot of time without a clapperboard.
But agree: it does not work as a replacement for multicam.
 
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Audio sync works great with me. I use it for syncing 7D with H4N audio and it saves a lot of time without a clapperboard.
But agree: it does not work as a replacement for multicam.
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if i have an XDCAM EX file that is comprised of 2 sequential pieces part 1 and part two, for whatever reason it will sync the 2nd part to the H4n audio but part 1 gets thrown at the end of the audio clip not attaching to any audio whatsoever. same goes for my 5DmkII (converted to XDCAM EX) multiple clips of 12 min in length with 10 sec gap because of having to hit record again...FCPX just doesnt see it and is lucky to get one of the associated clips.

when you are using your 7D are you using the native h.264? does my results compare to any of your finding? ive found many many people on the internet having exactly the same results as me.

david
 
For me, the audio sync works fine if the audio recorder is mounted on the camera or very close to it. If I try to sync footage from multiple cameras or from a camera and an audio recorder that are located more than 10 meters from each other, the auto sync is highly unreliable.
 
The 7D is typically 4-6 meters (12-18 feet) from the interviewee.
The H4N has a boom-mic.

7D records native h.264; H4N is in stamina, stereo mode.
I tried now syncing the h.264 and the ProRes files and both work for me.
I have in a current project 8 interviews and in the one before I had 6; all synced just as expected.

I had weird results when trying severl clips at once; they stack on top of each other; but when I select one video, then one audio....that works fine.
 
An Interesting thread here,many comments good and not so good.
May I throw my hat in, I must declare to date I have not tried FCPX, and by all reports will be in no hurry to do that,
so,
To test the water on what's out there, I downloaded (2gig) media composer 5.5.2 trial, it would not load on my 08 intel macpro, but did load on my 2011 MBP, so after getting an external monitor adapter for the thunderbolt port to DVI, away i went with a test comparing FCP7 to the AVID tool set, (I did own and run two Avid system many years ago), this current version of MC did not excite me, took me back to the old days I left behind , I then loaded a current version of Premier, and ran the three different edit platforms for a couple of days testing and noting the variations of each.

I concluded , use what will work best for your client base, they have their strengths and weaknesses, buy what your market will pay for, it's great to have so much choice of what's out there , good or bad,

Hopefully an up-dated version of FCPX will be much improved that's if apple will develop it further, I hope they do, FCP has been the back bone of many editors world wide for some years now, so I suppose the outcry at FCPX being such a huge change is understandable.
I will stay with FCP7 for the foreseeable future, it will be usable for some time yet.
Those who want to stay on the Cutting edge and use the latest n greatest become "Crash test dummies", that's how we felt in those very early days of Non-Linear.

Cheers
Tom
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