Fashion shoot filmed with Canon 7D
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dantewaters
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Producing a documentary on high fashion photographers in LA, this is a raw footage montage, no color correction. Let me know what ya think
http://vimeo.com/7282791 (watch in HD and comment on the video page)
Thanks!
Well I like what you are able to do with the light that is available to you.
The web compressor is annoying but the 7d looks nice here.
The building shots I love at about 0:43 clean and sharp. What lens and which aperture were you using give some info on your settings.
dantewaters
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I now see there's more details on Vimeo...
drewmaw
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"Shaky camera crap"? wow. Did I offend you? lol. I disagree. I'm not sure if you've seen any fashion videos recently, but this handheld style is very popular right now. In fact, the photographer, model, and client were "blown away".
drewmaw
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Yeah, vimeo's web compressor is garbage sometimes, especially regarding vsync. I'm surprised I still use them.
The building shots were shot with a Tokina 16-50mm, shot at 16mm and 50mm @ƒ/2.8.
drewmaw
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Thought the shots looked beautiful.
Although I thought that music was a poor choice to go with the piece. Words in a song like that just detract from the images. Although I know this was just showcasing your raw footage, but that song does not sound like it goes with 'high fashion'. Try some Justice maybe.
Great shots and models though, looks cool!
Although I thought that music was a poor choice to go with the piece. Words in a song like that just detract from the images. Although I know this was just showcasing your raw footage, but that song does not sound like it goes with 'high fashion'. Try some Justice maybe.
Great shots and models though, looks cool!
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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I think you did exactly what the clients would have liked. Captured the feeling of the shoot (as wanted to be depicted)... so in those regards I think the feeling you gave with the types of shots and compositions is right on. It felt right.
As for those who comment on the lighting, and etc... I have to say that, like set photographers, when it comes to lighting and the look, BTS people are usually tossed a wonderful bone by the photographer... The reason this footage didn't need any CC on the 'raw' footage is really a testament to the abilities of the fashion photographer, not how awesome the 7d may be. I don't mean this to a negative nancy, but it bothers me, as a lighting cameraman, when BTS set photographers get praised on how wonderful the lighting looks... it's not 'found' lighting and what is meant by 'lighting made available'... does one mean good set lighting? Again, I'm not trying to insult those of the bts or set photographers industry... but I feel comments or thoughts such as these can give people the wrong impression. The impression being: "wow. That 7d makes everything look amazing. This is RAW uncolor corrected footage from BTS."... The footage from the 7D may be raw, but the lighting and control from the photographer is refined...
This is nothing the original poster doesn't know, but more something I wanted to convey to the community, fearing that they assume the 7d makes these images like this Raw and out-of-the-box. It's the talented lighting and set design work combined with the original posters ability to expose for the photographers lighting and then get creative with shot selection, framing, and more. There was nothing simply 'available' or 'Raw' about that shoot. Nor the 7D. I might be singing to the choir, but you'd be surprised how some people may interpret these talented peoples work as out-of-the-box 7d goodness.
Again, I think the op did a wonderful job and I think he nailed the feeling and mood of what his clients wanted. I think the handheld work all-in-all is rather in these days and I wasn't distracted by it. If anything the still shots of the buildings were my bone to pick, as it seemed to not be consistent with the feel and momentum established in the photoshoot.
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commanderspike
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Don't invest in a tripod, invest in some originality :violent5:
Unless the client expects a certain style, what's the point of copying what's 'popular'?
Nice video just didn't hold my interest. Fast forwarded at 0:20 to see if they got naked. Sorry if my honesty offends you :beer:
Stephen Mick
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Drew, nice work. Looks like you've got some very happy clients, as well.
As for you, Spike, instead of posting "honesty" and unloading a dumptruck of negativity, why don't you make a suggestion or two as to how Drew could be "more original" here? What would you have done differently given the subject matter, and how would you have done it in a way that still aligned with what the client may have been looking for (BTS of the shoot)?
(Oh, wait, you posted cute emoticons, so everything's okay.)
As for you, Spike, instead of posting "honesty" and unloading a dumptruck of negativity, why don't you make a suggestion or two as to how Drew could be "more original" here? What would you have done differently given the subject matter, and how would you have done it in a way that still aligned with what the client may have been looking for (BTS of the shoot)?
(Oh, wait, you posted cute emoticons, so everything's okay.)
On the other hand, I disagree with sharp imagery and accurate fleshtones AND that it's too shaky.
There's nothing offensive about the handheld action here. If it were jittering around and improperly stabilized, sure, but it's not.
The handheld movement is fine.
drewmaw
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Yeah, I totally agree with you. And yes, the photographer's lighting was simple and effective. The "lighting" that I was filming was merely a hot light that photographers use to focus before they strike the strobes and capture an image. In fact, the photographer couldn't stop asking me before-hand, are you sure there's enough light for you, and I was like "yea, man, this is the 7D were talking about" lol, like he couldn't grasp that I could get useable footage out of what was such low light. But yes, I did get creative with what I had, and yes, the Canon 7D won't serve these images on a platter, but coming from a prosumer camera, I find these "raw" images very profound, because it is indeed profound that the camera is capturing these images with excellent contrast ratios, and fairly excellent auto-white-balance.
Thanks for the excellent comment, Ryan!
Thanks for the excellent comment, Ryan!
Drew, nice work. Looks like you've got some very happy clients, as well.
As for you, Spike, instead of posting "honesty" and unloading a dumptruck of negativity, why don't you make a suggestion or two as to how Drew could be "more original" here? What would you have done differently given the subject matter, and how would you have done it in a way that still aligned with what the client may have been looking for (BTS of the shoot)?
(Oh, wait, you posted cute emoticons, so everything's okay.)
He could have exposed his feelings in a fashion a bit more suitable to the community spirit, but let's not discourage honesty. There's not enough of it around here as it is when it comes to responses to posted footage.
I'm sure the OP, being in Hollywood already and having to compete with several hundreds of DPs and shooters, has thick enough skin to take an honest critique, no matter how it's phrased; I'd hope so, anyway.
drewmaw
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Invest in originality!? What? First of all, I do own an extremely nice fluid head and sticks. In fact, I started shooting on sticks, but I pulled it off to capture the energy of the shoot. IN FACT Mr. Original, I did look online for inspiration for this video, but I found nothing. I do enjoy Nautica videos, but they typically are a lot less shakey, SOOOO that being said, do your research before you call someone unoriginal. LOL. I dare you to go online and find a high fashion video that looks like mine and share. And I also dare you to show me something you've made that IS ORIGINAL LOL. Jesus Christ!
Stephen Mick
Totally Usable
I hear you, Kholi, I'd just like to get a bit more of the "constructive" in "constructive criticism." To tell someone to "invest in some originality" comes across the wrong way.
At least the guy who made the "get a tripod" comment made an actual suggestion as to how the OP could make his work "better."
At least the guy who made the "get a tripod" comment made an actual suggestion as to how the OP could make his work "better."
drewmaw
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Well, if you were really in Hollywood, then you'd know how insiders critique, by offering a list of things that worked, and a list of things that didn't work and why. For someone calling someone else "unoriginal (followed by a emoticon burning)", then you might as well be calling yourself a hypocrite. Nothing is new under the sun. We're not discouraging "dishonesty", but encouraging encouragement and constructive criticism.
John Caballero
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??????? Probably lots of "mud" shots. LOL.
Your video looks excellent. That's how pros do it.
Oh, I know how to give proper criticism. =] I choose not to because even proper criticism and thoughts aren't very popular on DVXuser.
As far as Commanderspike calling someone unoriginal, well... =B Take it with a grain of salt.
I don't live in Hollywood, by the way. I live off the cost of Santa Monica and commute when I have to; it's too hot in that hell hole for my tastes.