Facing The Giants

ChipG said:
There are a lot of poeple in hollywood taking notice of faith based movies like FTG & FIREPROOF and it's market, are we the only ones on dvxuser? If others new how strong the market is I don't think a thread title of "Faith Based Movies" or "Faith Based Blockbusters" would keep them away? Would it?
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I agree. But there's still the concern that it would lead to raging arguments about religious beliefs, rather than just sticking to the filmmaking aspects. I can understand and support that concern.

Ideally, only the offending posts -- and perhaps their posters -- would be removed. But that would likely be a LOT of work for an already over-taxed group of mods.

Much as I hate to say it, it's probably best to not take the chance.
 
I am christian, and my opinion is that it could lead to religious arguments,

currently nothing stops you from posting religious content, so I don't see the need for it to have it's own section,

just my opinion,

Derrick
 
I wasn't sugesting it's own section, just a thread that would follow faith based movies, markets and thier unique ways of distribution that have many people in hollywood watching.
 
ChipG said:
Hey Brandon,

Did you say your next film is going to be a faith based film?
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I think all of his films are. Don't be surprised if Brandon suddenly comes up with his own Red Camera making Smuggler's Ransom 2.

ChipG said:
I wasn't sugesting it's own section, just a thread that would follow faith based movies, markets and thier unique ways of distribution that have many people in hollywood watching.
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I think what people are saying is it's kind of not really needed. Much of it is the same. We use the same cameras, techniques the only thing to discuss differently would be maybe content and even that wouldn't be that big of a deal. So aside from "faith" a faith-based thread would be overkill.

-Nate
 
Well Nate,

The marketing and distribution is not the same, actualy it is very far from the same as conventional movies. Have you researched the business models for marketing faith based movies such as FTG and Fireproof among others? Anything but normal or convential, with tremendous sucess.

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... I never said anything about a you know what section, just a thread to see if there were more than 4 people here who are following these types of movies and marketeing.

I don't think it would be to bad if it were about the marketing, distribution and the $ results.

Who knows I could be wrong... It's been 6 months since I was struck by lightning in a car storm chasing so I guess I'm feeling pretty lucky :Drogar-Smoke(DBG):

I'm sure I'll be hit by lightning again next season :Drogar-Dum(DBG):
 
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Give it a try and see what happens. But also keep in mind also faith-based doesn't just mean Christian. (The general connotation). Tony Jaa's "Protector" and "Ong-bak" could both full under this category and so could "Kung fu Hustle" for their openly Buddhist themes.

-Nate
 
I know and even thought about calling it "Marketing & Distributing Christian Films" but figured that would piss off even more people. If there is any interest I geuss I could run it by the mods first, if not no big deal, I'll personally be folling the distribution, marketing models.
 
ChipG said:
Hey Brandon,

Did you say your next film is going to be a faith based film?
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Yes, it's looking that way... NGL is also faith-based, which means that basically any serious film I've made thus far has been faith-based, it just seems a good niche market that's in need of quality stuff.
 
Brandon Rice said:
Yes, it's looking that way... NGL is also faith-based, which means that basically any serious film I've made thus far has been faith-based, it just seems a good niche market that's in need of quality stuff.
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I agree, stick with it!

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Starting a thread for the marketing of faith based films is a great idea. It is different as evidenced by Fireproof's marketing strategy - opening in areas receptive of the film's message, offering smaller communities the option of banding together and pre-buying screenings to bring the film to those ares. A thread is appropriate the same way thread about marketing horror films would be appropriate.

But there will be no faith based sub forum on DVXuser. At least not until there's a subforum for every other film genre and subgenre.

And there will be no sticky.

If you want to dicuss a faith based film start a thread in the Film Discussion sub forum like this one.

If you want to discuss the business marketing end of faith based films start a thread in the Marketing Business subforum.

Why would we start a special section for discussion of the films themselves or the marketing of the films themselves when we don't have that for action, comedy, horror or whatever? I mean come on.

Now go back to discussing "Facing the Giants."

Threads OK. Sections = No. (and I know the section idea vs. just starting a thread was a misunderstanding and not actually what was suggested).

So please, no more discussion of rhetoric - what this word means, that word means, should they have a sub forum, why shouldn't they have a sub forum, that phrasing is insensitive, this side is crazy, that side is crazy, both sides are crazy, this is alienating, that's alienating, why on earth would you think that's alienating or it's lock down time.

Besides you don't need to discuss whether one should or shouldn't start a thread for faith based films and marketing them because that would be allowable within the forum guidelines and no member needs any other member's OK to start any kind of thread.

So back to "Facing the Giants" please. :)

Thanks,
THE MANAGEMENT
 
Jack Daniel Stanley said:
Besides you don't need to discuss whether one should or shouldn't start a thread for faith based films and marketing them because that would be allowable within the forum guidelines and no member needs any other member's OK to start any kind of thread.

So back to "Facing the Giants" please. :)

Thanks,
THE MANAGEMENT
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Jack.....does this mean if I start another thread to discuss the box office gross and other filmmaking/marketing elements of 'Fireproof', that it won't be closed like the last one? Because last time, when he closed the thread, J.R. Hudson said....
Hey guys

Fireproof has been talked to death and closed at that. Starting more Fireproof threads goes against the lock and really ? Is there anything left to say on the film ?

No mas please.
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This sort of implies we shouldn't start any more threads about 'Fireproof'.

Not trying to be a pain. Just hoping we can actually have further discussion about 'Fireproof' in its own thread.
 
Or at least have the ability to discuss it in a new "Faith Based Movies & Marketing" thread?
 
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what happened with the fireproof thread was that we were constantly having to go in like little elves in the night and clean up like I did here last night, so that's where John's "no mas" comes from and that's why the thread went bye bye.

How about don't start another fireproof thread but yeah you can start a general thread for marketing these kinds of films and discuss Fireproof there with other films.
 
David,

I think you have more to say to start with so would you like to do the honors & start the thread?
 
Nathyn said:
Give it a try and see what happens. But also keep in mind also faith-based doesn't just mean Christian. (The general connotation). Tony Jaa's "Protector" and "Ong-bak" could both full under this category and so could "Kung fu Hustle" for their openly Buddhist themes.

-Nate
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Got it & I'm very clear about that.
 
or guys... I'd be happy to chat about marketing faith-based films in the "NGL" thread... that's the purpose of the thread anyway, to be a bit of a behind the scenes on the process. Let's chat there.
 
Guys . . .

Some of you don't seem to be able to keep from making this stuff a discussion about religion itself and its adherents and non-believers. That has no place here. I don't know how we can make that any more clear.
 
Well I'm sure there are other forums to discuss what everyone seems to really want to discuss.

Hasn't there been 3 or 4 different threads on either FTG or FP ? Seems nothing new is being added other than everyone repeating themselves.

And as Mods do, havin to run in like Little Elves (As Jack put it) is starting to feel like baby sitting.
 
Actually.. only one thread a piece for each film :) And I think I've given those who want to discuss the real marketing stuff a place to do that.
 
Also I've started a thread for "Divinity" in User Films which is a sequel to "Mask of the Antichrist" so that's open too. I just added another "reserved" space so feel free to talk there too if you want.

-Nate
 
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