Facing The Giants

You know, I've always thought doing a horror film dealing with the demonic realm in a realistic way would be extremely frightening... it can be more psychological horror than anything... I hate really gory horror anyway, it's just not very scary to me... but psychological horror is... watch THE SHINING... scariest film I've ever seen... very little gore or blood.

What about the sequence where the hotel lobby fills with blood? LOL.

Yea I think that would be extremely scary. Films have obviously done it before though, what would you do differently than The Exorcist, or The Exorcism of Emily Rose?
 
The trick would be in not alienating your core audience. Most Christians wouldn't want to see blood, gore, heads sawed off, nudity, etc. They would stay away, and the hardcore horror fans would probably avoid it because of its Christian elements.

The "Passion of the Christ" was a big hit with horror fans. And to say Horror fans would avoid a film because of "Christian elements" isn't exactly true. In fact horror is the only genre you can add Christian elements without question. My next film will probably be some kind of action horror film. (You can check out this post http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=151763 to see what I was planning but I had to change it because obviously I wasn't the only one thinking it). For many the scariest horror film to this day is still "The Exorcist". My producer will not watch the film and for a long time didn't even like hearing the theme music. (Ironically it was his cellphone theme for a short).

Films have obviously done it before though, what would you do differently than The Exorcist, or The Exorcism of Emily Rose?

Nothing! That's the point. The idea of putting "Christian" in front of every genre is annoying, besides everyone knows putting "Christian" on front a genre film is simply a way of marketing. (I would put a Bible scripture here but I remember the rules :) ). Christian horror is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Like reading stories about Jesus casting out demons then calling them "horror" stories. When many -heck I'll even say "most" - people are in trouble they pray, even many people who aren't very religious but have a basic knowledge of God. Hollywood has issues with God therefore you don't see what real people would do. Even Bill Maher screams "Oh God" when something suddenly scary or possibly life threatening happens. A Christian would automatically cry out to God or Jesus if a little girl starts crawling out of a freaking TV set as it starts leaking water. (Although I do also subscribe to the theory if you simply knock the hell outta the little demon spawn you'd at least get some foot distance simply because she'd never see it coming).

But seriously horror films can have openly Christian themes without people batting an eyelash. But our problem is the need to identify. What is it with the need to tell everyone "Look I'm making a Christian movie. God loves me. I'm so cool. I just haven't learned the water walking thing or the multiplying bread and fish stuff yet but I'm learning. By this time next year I'm gonna be kicking secular butt! You just watch!" Just make the bloody film and let people decide. "The Exorcist" is nothing more than the ULTIMATE battle of good versus evil, think God vs Devil. Now if you do that same exact film but say to everyone "This is a Christian film about possession" no one will want to see it but Christians and those interested in such. The sad part is if this film was made today some non Christians would actually label it Christian propaganda (which I have read some comments where people who are ignorant of the film's origins actually called it that).

Anyone ever see the film "The Visitation" based on Frank Perretti's novel? NOTHING about that film was specifically something Stephen King couldn't have done. Dudleytown is a new Christian horror franchise. What about the "Omen" or "The Reaping" or "Frailty" or "Dracula" or "Stigmata" or "Rosemary's Baby"? All aren't specifically "Christian" but Horror with spiritual/Christian overtones isn't new. Hollywood simply shies away from it (only in the past few years since Christianity has become political). Like the film "Blade" having vampires not be affected by crosses. (I guess this happens when vampires live in Hollywood for a long time). As a matter of fact Vampirism is now treated like a virus in newer Hollywood films versus a demonic curse or vampires simply being animated bodies inhabited by demonic beings/souls. Why do Christians always act like everything is new and special. IT NOT! And putting Christian in front of everything just screws it up for everyone. Now instead of just relaxing and enjoying the movie everyone will be asking the dumbass "Is this Christian" question.

But all this is especially annoying to me because if I make a horror film everyone will say "Is this Christian?" Leading me to do bad things to them. That wouldn't be a nice thing to do right? Then they'll put me in jail away from DVXUser, away from Brandon, Jason and Kyle and what about Chip and Kubrick71 and Penguin. Now do you guys want to see me go to jail? WELL, DO YOU!!! If not then STOP THE MADNESS! JUST MAKE A FILM AND LET IT SPEAK FOR ITSELF.

okay, i'm done.

-Nate
 
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Well the way I look at it, few people have real-world experience with Satan and demons more than Christians do. A friend of mine was working on a feature script for a movie about angels in an epic battle with demons, which I think would be awesome if done on the same scale as something like "Lord of the Rings" or "Chronicles of Narnia".

Crap!!! Are you serious! Why is everyone doing an angel films suddenly!?!?!?!?

-Nate
 
They just had a promo on TV for Tom Hanks new film "Angel's & Demon's" it said it'll be out in May of 09. It looked really good but sounded like the same score from the Da Vinci Code.

Passion was great and a big hit, one of my best friends is Jim Caviezel's brother, Tim.
 
They just had a promo on TV for Tom Hanks new film "Angel's & Demon's" it said it'll be out in May of 09. It looked really good but sounded like the same score from the Da Vinci Code.

I'm still trippin' on the amount of Angel films suddenly coming out all the sudden.

constantine is badass.

Constantine is indeed "badass".

-Nate
 
Who the "HELL" is this Constantine?

Just wait until 2010-2013 you'll see many more of these movies.
 
I don't know. The fun (and best discussion) is in having all the different participants. A "faith based" movie thread would lead some to stay away. It would alienate the dialogue that goes on in these threads.

-Nate
 
I don't know. The fun (and best discussion) is in having all the different participants. A "faith based" movie thread would lead some to stay away. It would alienate the dialogue that goes on in these threads.

-Nate

Simply because there is a section specifically for faith-based movies, why would that alienate anyone? I don't think people here are so sensitive that they would avoid a discussion simply because it was in a category labeled 'Faith Based'. If that were true, then those same people would have avoided these threads about FTG and Fireproof.

The problem I see with a section to discuss faith-based movies is that some people don't seem to be able to discuss the movies without arguing over the faith. This has led to the closing of threads. I can understand closing threads when the discussion veers into the subject of religion. But a thread was opened merely discussing the film 'Fireproof' -- the initial post covering the current box office figures and success of the low budget indie feature. That thread was closed, presumably because of a concern that it might veer into a discussion of religion.

I'm glad this thread has remained open as long as it has. But I'm not sure that a section for faith-based films is likely to be created. For the record, I agree with the board mods' rules about not allowing discussions of politics or religion. But I would like to see serious discussions of the filmmaking aspects of faith-based movies. It's a shame that some people can't resist the urge to ridicule the beliefs of others in the course of such a discussion -- they ruin it for the rest of us.
 
There are a lot of poeple in hollywood taking notice of faith based movies like FTG & FIREPROOF and it's market, are we the only ones on dvxuser? If others new how strong the market is I don't think a thread title of "Faith Based Movies" or "Faith Based Blockbusters" would keep them away? Would it?
 
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