Error -36 during P2 drag and drop to external

Spoke with Panasonic. They didn't call me because the 205 isn't supported in the US. The warranty isn't valid, and they won't offer any tech support beyond telling me that it's defective and should be returned. Guess that's what I'll do.
 
Before you send it maybe try going directly from the camera thru firewire to an empty external harddrive(cam will format to fat32). Did u get a chance to try another mac or even pc for xfer. Or hook up another firewire device(another camcorder) to your Mac and see if that xfers over. Just to make sure its not the comp's firewire. Trial and error just to be sure. Anyways, best of luck.
 
The 205 is the Japanese model. If it needs service, and is within the warranty period, you might be able to get it serviced in Japan, but that's the only place that services 205's.
 
The firewire on the Mac is fine, I use it to import footage from my other camera. The camera doesn't even have to have a cable attached to get the 1394 initial error display.

The seller is trying to tell me this camera won't accept firewire, but only USB. That sounds like a load to me.
 
Ebay. So, similar.

They're saying the warranty is valid through the original retailer in NY, which was never mentioned before. You'd think that'd be mentioned.
 
That's what happen's when someone buys greymarket. You pay less up front but pay way more in the end. Get yourself the AJ-PCD2 card reader.
 
I'm not working with a camera that has this much trouble from the get-go. It's going back. I dislike the HVX workflow a bit, as well, I'm considering other options when the return is made and I'm looking to purchase again.

Mind you, I don't think "greymarket" is an appropriate term for Ebay.
 
Mind you, I don't think "greymarket" is an appropriate term for Ebay.
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he wasnt calling ebay greymarket. greymarket refers to cameras manufactured for specific geographic areas being sold "shadily" in other areas

read this:
http://www.spec-comm.com/greyMarket.html

people get lured in by the lower purchase price. but often, like you, get bitten in the hiney if the warranty ever needs to be invoked.

I dislike the HVX workflow a bit
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what is it that you dislike? i had an hvx200 for a couple years and now have used an hpx170 for a couple more, and the P2 workflow has been an absolute treat. aside from your current problem (which id assume is specific to this one unit) what have you not enjoyed?
 
mr_goodbomb said:
I'm not working with a camera that has this much trouble from the get-go. It's going back. I dislike the HVX workflow a bit, as well, I'm considering other options when the return is made and I'm looking to purchase again.
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The problems you've been having are experienced by almost no else who has used the camera, so while it doesn't make your situation any better for you, it's not the HVX in general or P2 which is to blame. It sounds like you may just have a faulty camera.

Obviously, it's up to you, but you're bagging the whole concept of the camera based on something which is very much an anomaly. The HVX is a great camera, which you'd appreciate full well as a fan of the DVX, and the workflow is excellent when it's done right.
 
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The problems you've been having are experienced by almost no else who has used the camera, so while it doesn't make your situation any better for you, it's not the HVX in general or P2 which is to blame. It sounds like you may just have a faulty camera.

Obviously, it's up to you, but you're bagging the whole concept of the camera based on something which is very much an anomaly. The HVX is a great camera, which you'd appreciate full well as a fan of the DVX, and the workflow is excellent when it's done right.
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Yes, I don't mean "this camera" as in this model and make when I said "I'm not working with this camera because." I mean, quite literally, this particular, defective, camera.

I do dislike the workflow, as it seems a bit more of a pain than most, and some of the things I assumed about the HVX prior to getting to work with it (that indidivual clips could be deleted on location, mainly) make me a bit less willing to work with this particular model than I was prior. Then again, at this price point, unless I go DSLR, for HD, I'm not sure what else I could get. I enjoy the DVX, but find the multiple possibilities for error in the HVX import system to be a bit annoying.
 
(that indidivual clips could be deleted on location, mainly) make me a bit less willing to work with this particular model than I was prior.
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uh, you CAN do this with the hvx...

but find the multiple possibilities for error in the HVX import system to be a bit annoying.
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im not sure what "multiple possibilities" youre referring to. as its always been pretty straight forward and 100% error free for me since day one.

the only real significant error possibility is the chance that you may zap your firewire port if you plug a cable into the camera while the camera is powered on.

to be brutally honest with you. its clear that you didnt do your homework before buying (e.g. the gray market thing) and from this thread it appears that you havent read the manual much if at all. i suggest before you make any other purchase decision that you spend some time with the manual (you can download a pdf if youve already returned yours) or with barrys book. or equally valuable the search feature of this website.

i too had some frustrations at first figuring out how to do some things, but the answers were right there in the three sources ive mentioned above.
 
I was told you either format the entire card or keep all the content, that you couldn't delete a specific clip of a take you didn't need but keep the rest.

By multiple possibilities, I mean with my short run with this camera, I seen to have seen an error at the camera level, an error at P2 level, an error at firewire level, an error at P2CMS level, an error at system level, and an error at FCP level. Granted, this is certainly unusual, but with the need for P2CMS, it just adds more possibilities for things to make trouble. And yes, I said very early on, installing P2CMS crashed my system the first time around, this was verified by Apple when I took it in for repairs.

I'm not sure why you keep implying I purchased this "grey market." It's Ebay. The warranty was provided "grey market," I guess, which I was fully unaware of until after purchase and once trouble started. I thought the warranty was provided from the manufacturer. Since it isn't, and along with the other issues, I'm returning the camera.

The manual for the 205 is a bit different, and not very helpful. I did read it, though, as it came with the camera. Every question I've asked here thus far was not answered in that manual.
 
You can definitely delete any clip you want at any time, without regards to the rest of the card.

"gray market" means that you bought a unit (through whatever source) that was not intended to be marketed in this particular territory. If you buy a manufacturer-authorized unit from an authorized dealer, in the territory it was meant to be sold in, you will have warranty coverage in this territory. Gray market means that somebody bought some units overseas somewhere and is reselling them here. The warranty doesn't apply here because those units were never meant to be sold here. There is a warranty, it's just in whatever country the camera was meant to be sold to. In your case, with a 205, that means the warranty is in Japan. 205's were only supposed to be sold to Japan, never outside of Japan.
 
I'm not sure why you keep implying I purchased this "grey market." It's Ebay.
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ebay is just a place for people to sell stuff. its often no safer than buying stereo gear out the back of somebody's van. some sellers are legit, some less so. but youre always risking buying something thats coming off rental inventory or got dunked in a lake and repaired... you apparently found a seller selling japanese market cameras in america. it happens a lot. was the seller by any chance in brooklyn?

The warranty was provided "grey market," I guess, which I was fully unaware of until after purchase and once trouble started
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yeah. thats what happens. so for the benefit of future readers, was the cost savings worth it?
 
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wgzn said:
ebay is just a place for people to sell stuff. its often no safer than buying stereo gear out the back of somebody's van. some sellers are legit, some less so. but youre always risking buying something thats coming off rental inventory or got dunked in a lake and repaired... you apparently found a seller selling japanese market cameras in america. it happens a lot. was the seller by any chance in brooklyn?

yeah. thats what happens. so for the benefit of future readers, was the cost savings worth it?
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I didn't know that the back of someone's van had customer support, buyer protection, or payment holds for faulty or unreceived purchases. I've been screwed a few times buying online, but thus far, Ebay has always backed the buyer and made things right. It may take a while, but it's fewer hoops than a retail store generally makes you jump through. It's 2011, I expected people dealing in a market of constant tech upgrades and improvements to be a little more warm to the idea of buying online. The seller was from Canada, the store he purchased from was a retailer somewhere in New York.

The "cost savings" won't matter much if and when I get my money back in full. The only thing wasted will be time, which, yes, for a savings of $2,800, is worth it, and when I'm done with this whole ordeal, I'll buy used online again, but certainly not a Japanese model. I didn't buy the Japanese model because it was cheaper, I bought it because it was the only one touting a warranty, which was false.
 
ok man, if you want to be sarcastic to the people trying to help you. i guess thats your right. but i think i can speak for the other folks whove chimed in here by saying that we have bought and sold NUMEROUS cameras and assorted gear online. on ebay as well as this and other forums. and if you dont know all the questions to ask (and the answers you want) or if youre just out for the lowest price. your chances of being screwed go up very quickly. a fact proven in this thread.

i think weve done about all we can do to help you with this situation.
 
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id suggest using usb. i find firewire for transfer to be really hit and miss.
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I tried this
  • MENU
  • arrow up
  • enter
  • PC MODE=USB DEVICE
  • change camera mode to MCR/VCR
  • change camera mode to PC/DUB
... and now I can no longer see my clips?!?

After doing this there is a red alert in the middle of the screen of the AG-HVX200E saying: FORMAT ERR!

Did this happen due to card not locked? ... and MacOS X making some system files, or similar?

Before I was able to occationally mount the P2 card via FW on my black MacBook( 10.5.x ), with the same charming error as described above: -36, but not on my MacBook 13" Pro( 10.6.x ).

I’m now connect via usb and running
Code: 
dd if=/dev/p2hd of=~/Movies/p2hd.dd bs=4096
I downloaded and ran photorec from: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec and it helped me gain access to the MXF files in the .dd image, that I made from the P2 Card using USB.
 
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