I know. But the file is not available there for download. Please check it there. That's why I've asked to you. Probably you thought that you had downloaded the original 30p clip.
EOS 5D MK II workaround: Converting 30p into 24p/25p
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Lee Wilson
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Yeah, I thought I had downloaded the original 30p, but I must have somehow managed to devise an easy way of downloading Vimeo's 24p conversion (and then forgot all about doing it) - and then I must have accidentally used After Effects to turn the 24p into 25p, when I thought I was turning 30p into 25p (I just must have put the right maths in for 24p to 25p without noticing).
Silly mistake of mine, thanks for pointing it out.
Gordon Prince
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Don't you have a 5DMk2? Why don't you show us more tests? It should be useful instead.
joe 1008
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Yes, we need more examples. Lee's footage is the only one (beside VERY short other clips) I could look at. And there has passed quite a lot of time since then. We need to see difficult scenes with a lot of motion, we need longer takes to analyze them adecuadly. We need to SEE more and TALK less.
I´m optimistic that the conversion from 30p to 24p is a viable workaround. Converting a video clip or a short over night - why not? Let your computer run a long weekend for a feature? It could be worse. But I'm driven by optimism, not by hard facts...
I´m optimistic that the conversion from 30p to 24p is a viable workaround. Converting a video clip or a short over night - why not? Let your computer run a long weekend for a feature? It could be worse. But I'm driven by optimism, not by hard facts...
Lee Wilson
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If you have After Effects or Compressor or any package that does good pixel motion / optical flow / Twixtor / Time Warp (or whatever they want to call it) - then sling some footage in (doesn't have to be 5D2 footage - just 30p) and give it a whirl.
P.S the above post (about downloading the 24p and not 30p footage) was sarcasm - in case anyone thought otherwise !
Emanuel
Cross-Examiner
Lee,If you have After Effects or Compressor or any package that does good pixel motion / optical flow / Twixtor / Time Warp (or whatever they want to call it) - then sling some footage in (doesn't have to be 5D2 footage - just 30p) and give it a whirl.
P.S the above post (about downloading the 24p and not 30p footage) was sarcasm - in case anyone thought otherwise !
I don't have them for now. It should be nice if you might add some more conversion tests.
:dankk2:
E.
I know what I am doing, as I used to do this kind of thing for a living !
That's a funny thing on all video boards i've ever visited. All "kids with video cameras" assume that everybody else is too, and proceed trying to teach you things about "old nikon lenses" based on an ebay ad they just saw, not realizing that you once bought one of those brand new when they were state of the art and that you've been using them professionally ever since. I like this attitude though, it's very easy to forget the joy of learning new things when so many things come automatically. I'm only 35 btw so i still pretend to be a "kid with a video camera" once in a while even though i've been a photographer for 20 years.
Lee Wilson
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Ha! very true !
Same story for me but from less of a photography side and more a computer imaging side:[wonders down memory lane . . . . . . ]
I remember using Photoshop when it couldn't rotate images, so if you scanned your image (greyscale only) in the wrong orientation, you couldn't - for instance - rotate it 90deg to correct it, you had to throw it away and re-scan it the right way up !
I remember seeing the first colour scan in London - (a photograph of some fruit if I remember correctly) - I went around to a friends print/scanning house to join the throng of excited/confused onlookers !
I remember a company I worked for getting their first server . . . . . which was a massive . . . . wait for it . . . . . 100 MB ! We thought this was so big at the time we Christened it 'The Pit' - as, to us, this was an endless pit of storage we could never possibly fill up (with our 28k illustrator/Quark files).
I remember explaining to a client way over 15 years ago that if you factor in the colour sub carrier, NTSC will run at 29.97/59.94 rather than 30/60.
I remember getting the first HD monitor in all of Europe (!!) - a company I worked for were given a HD digital (reel to reel) machine and two massive (I mean MASSIVE!) HD CRT monitors from Sony. We developed the first (non-commercial) way of laying off HD frames from a computer to digital tape using a Quadra 700 (!!!!!) as the front end - this was all over a decade ago.
And so on ad nauseam . . . z z z z Z z Z Z Z z Z z Z z
So, having explained to Caesar that I have simply taken a 30p file and converted it to 25p using After Effects built in time stretch doesn't seem like such an outrageous claim !
That you cannot download (readily) the Vimeo 24p conversion - and that you can (easily) download the 30p version - and that is what I have claimed to do - should be enough of a clue !
:zombie_smiley::crybaby:
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Lee Wilson
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Anyone heard about these 'old nikon lenses' ? Apparently they have a dial to control the aperture* - this is no joke, I am being serious - I saw someone selling one on ebay.
*the aperture means the hole on the front of the camera that can see the picture in the camera (or outside the camera ?) and let's the ink** from the world (outside) get into the camera to make the pixels for the JPEG file.
**Might not be ink, I am not sure, could be some kind of computer paint.
*the aperture means the hole on the front of the camera that can see the picture in the camera (or outside the camera ?) and let's the ink** from the world (outside) get into the camera to make the pixels for the JPEG file.
**Might not be ink, I am not sure, could be some kind of computer paint.
Lee Wilson
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Lee,
I don't have them for now. It should be nice if you might add some more conversion tests.
:dankk2:
E.
I am going to get a bath right now, so I will leave a little bit of 5D2 cooking for you.
Emanuel
Cross-Examiner
:dankk2: Lee.
And if it is allowed to me, I'd like to see you both personally. Lee in UK, Mattias in Scandinavia, I am for now in Rome. Even though, my group has partners distributed a little bit among Rome, Lisbon, Hamburg and other places. We might cooperate in some project. Europe is not so big! Be cool and good 'boys with cameras', Santa Claus is around the corner.
Emanuel
Lee Wilson
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:dankk2: Lee.
And if it is allowed to me, I'd like to see you both personally. Lee in UK, Mattias in Scandinavia, I am for now in Rome. Even though, my group has partners distributed a little bit among Rome, Lisbon, Hamburg and other places. We might cooperate in some project. Europe is not so big! Be cool and good 'boys with cameras', Santa Claus is around the corner.
Emanuel
I will meet you all in Paris in two hours, don't be late, I shall be wearing an orange rain coat.
Ok, this one is quick and rubbish ! I did nothing to make the picture look good, I didn't even zoom in to focus ! :zombie_smiley: So ignore the quality (might use a tripod next time !!!)
30p Footage > into After Effects > time stretch to 83.333333% using interpolation > render to 25p.
http://www.vimeo.com/2522507
Emanuel
Cross-Examiner
:dankk2: No problem at all with the subject. The proof is in the pudding. :thumbsup:
Next time, you can add a british blonde if I am not asking too much.
Seriously, if you can add other situations, it would be fine. The quality of the footage is completely irrelevant. These are tests, not masterpieces.
Emanuel
Next time, you can add a british blonde if I am not asking too much.
Seriously, if you can add other situations, it would be fine. The quality of the footage is completely irrelevant. These are tests, not masterpieces.
Emanuel
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Lee Wilson
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Another one . . . . it's very very very cold here in London today, so all these shots are either inside or less than 10 meters away (any further and I might not make it back and freeze to death) I might go further out tomorrow (maybe as much as 200 meters).
http://www.vimeo.com/2524276
http://www.vimeo.com/2524276
bronxjragon
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isnt there a canon 5d mII forum elsewhere. i thought this was a d90 thread
Lee Wilson
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If you are looking for a 5D2 forum go to: www.cinema5d.com (lots of good infor for you there).
As for this being a 'D90' thread, there are clues in the thread's title ;P
'EOS 5D MK II workaround: Converting 30p into 24p/25p"
bronxjragon
Well-known member
my point was theres so much 5d stuff on this d90 subforum, shouldnt the 5d stuff be in another section. the last 5 or such threads have been about 5d rather than d90. ;P
Lee Wilson
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Maybe you are right, some moderator should ship all these 5D threads over to the 'Canon Cameras' Sub-Forum.
Emanuel
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Lee Wilson
Veteran
Lee,
I can't access to your Vimeo file (private stuff).
E.
Vimeo is so random sometimes, I never touch the 'privacy' settings, sometimes it makes them 'Public', sometimes 'Private' ?
Switched to 'Public' now.