Effective Communication

i personally believe that u.s. americans don't use grammar cause some people in our nation don't have grammar books. and our education, like saudi arabia and the iraq, such as. i believe that our nation over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. and teach grammar to south africa and the iraq and asian countries so we can build better grammar.
 
ugafan said:
i personally believe that u.s. americans don't use grammar cause some people in our nation don't have grammar books. and our education, like saudi arabia and the iraq, such as. i believe that our nation over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. and teach grammar to south africa and the iraq and asian countries so we can build better grammar.
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Oh man, that is hilarious. I can't stop laughing. :)
 
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ugafan said:
i personally believe that u.s. americans don't use grammar cause some people in our nation don't have grammar books. and our education, like saudi arabia and the iraq, such as. i believe that our nation over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. and teach grammar to south africa and the iraq and asian countries so we can build better grammar.
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:laugh::cheesy:

Hilarious and much-needed.
 
I'm guilty of nitpicking - I won't lie about it, nor am I perfect. I will make spelling errors, but if I catch it, I'm going to fix it. I used to think that the way a post is structured was just as important as the content in it, but now I believe otherwise.

I'm glad that Como was brought up in this thread, because I for one thought his posts were atrocious to read. I also saw some potential in him and started speaking to him...or trying to. At certain points in the conversation, I would just stop talking because I wouldn't understand a bloody word he was saying.

I met him yesterday and although he jokes around, he really does have the heart of a filmmaker. He's truly ambitious and while we were working on a 24 hour film challenge yesterday, the only thing he was focused on was getting the film done to the best of his ability.

Getting back to my original point of this post; I suppose I was being an "english snob", so to speak. I would criticize someone based on how they talked on an internet forum, when I really should have been focusing on the content of their posts.

Effective communication is one thing, but there really is no purpose of ignoring a message, simply because of how it is delivered.

-Kegan
 
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ugafan said:
i personally believe that u.s. americans don't use grammar cause some people in our nation don't have grammar books. and our education, like saudi arabia and the iraq, such as. i believe that our nation over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. and teach grammar to south africa and the iraq and asian countries so we can build better grammar.
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Hey, are you the same guy who sent me that e-mail about my inheritance of a gratuitous fortune of money from the esteemed bank of Southern Liberia?






Because I'm still waiting for the damned check.





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J.R. Hudson said:
Film is an art. My beef is the lack of artists on the site. I want to represent the world in indiependent film, but aside from a handful of badmotherpoo pooers, there aint much much depth here.

Skate videos, weddings, instructional films.... Does anyone care about Mis-en-scene ? Does anyone care about becoming a master ? I obsesss about theory, the line, the visual langauge .... I can count on one hand and a half the other users that do here.
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Wow. If I had the power, I'd make this quote into a logo and stick it on all dvxuser forums that deal with the art of film. Absolutely 100% correct.

What's even worse, is the defensive attitudes of people who ask for criticism/feedback, and if they get as much as a hint of anything less than complimentary, they immediately attack the critic personally. Those are the real asshats. Then many other people join in attacking the critic - boo, bad critic, meanie, nasty, hurt the widdle feewings of the "artist"! It's gotten to the point where only wishy-washy comments are posted for fear of the personal attacks, or indeed no comments ("if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"). One has to strain artificially to invent something positive to say to "balance out" the critique. I was astonished on several occasions when my feedback was genuinely positive like 95%, with only 5% of criticism, and I was violently attacked ad hominem by the poster.

All this breeds mediocrity. If you can't stand criticism, don't ask for feedback. Of course, you won't grow as an artist either. And that's how you end up with a situation as described by Hudson.
 
Can someone change my member status to "resident asshat"?

I had a really bad day yesterday...just one of those "wow, I had higher hopes for this slice of my life" kinda days. Sitting on pins and needles about the budget coming through for my new feature, kids driving me nuts, roof of the house leaking, getting nothing worthwhile done...and I was REALLY pissed about the Bronco game.

I stand by the content of my initial post, but after re-reading it this morning (and cringing when I kept hearing my high school French teacher's voice as I read it), it's waaaaay more patronizing than it could have been. I'm generally a much more moderate and reasoned kind of guy.

My apologies....
 
Dude, don't ask for that title, because Jarred might actually do it -- look at poor Monte, or Mark Harris... :)

But I'm with you on this -- if you're going to try to communicate, you should actually try. Spelling and grammar exist for a reason. Might be less crucial when communicating among friends or in a specific artist group, but bringing internet vernacular and lousy spelling to a business environment (and film is a business) is just going to get you shown the door.
 
Yeah! And don't question the man... that will get you shown teh door!
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Ugafan made my day again!

I think writing proper english is just good for the quality of this board. It is not my native language so I sometimes have a few problems if someone totally messes up words, punctuation and structure for example. My english skills are quite good, but there are alot of people with poor english skills and I can just imagine what problems they have.

Well written english just improves everything. Let's do it! :D
 
Barry_Green said:
Might be less crucial when communicating among friends or in a specific artist group, but bringing internet vernacular and lousy spelling to a business environment (and film is a business) is just going to get you shown the door.
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i've always heard that when one door closes, a window opens. it makes sense, because that would make it much easier to push your former boss through.
 
I had a 3D program decide it wanted to use a Klingon font for system messages. That was interesting. Kind of like Japanese, reading it and speaking it are two different things all together.
 
ugafan said:
i personally believe that u.s. americans don't use grammar cause some people in our nation don't have grammar books. and our education, like saudi arabia and the iraq, such as. i believe that our nation over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. and teach grammar to south africa and the iraq and asian countries so we can build better grammar.
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Oh, and lest I let this slip by -- this is absolutely post of the year.
 
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