I think this topic has been touched on but I was wanting to get more indepth advice on the subject. I was planning on buying the 7d but after comparing specs and price I decided that I will probably buy the t2i instead. I just couldn't find enough differences in the cameras to justify twice the price for the 7d..... unless there is some magic button I'm missing?? Now my understanding on lenses is somewhat limted but let me ask. My understanding is that the t2i like the 7d has EF-S mount and APS-C sensor. And with it having an EF-S mount you can use EF and EF-S lenses on this mount. However when you use EF lenses you will have a 1.6x crop. So say a 17mm focal length will become 27mm. But this cropping is not an issue if you use EF-S lenses. However EF-S lenses are not compatible on a EF mount(fullframe) say on the 5dmii. And if they did fit on the EF mount (maybe some do??... maybe some don't??) you would probably get bad vinetting since the EF-S is made for the smaller APS-C sensor. So if all of this is true?????? .... is it??? If I bought a t2i would it be better to buy (and stick to) EF lenses and just deal with the cropping issue. That way if in the future I bought a full frame body I could use the same lenses. Or just buy EF-S lenses and be done with it. I'm just looking for some solid advice in this purchase decision. If I'm way too off base feel free to slap me. Thanks for any information you can impart.
EF/EF-S/APS-C/FullFrame...buying advice.
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HD live feed to monitor, on-top display, wheatersealing/better interface. But yeah, for that money you're probably better off with a haxx0r 1337 wallhack GH1... overall the t2i feels more like a "normal" consumer product and myself I handle it like a fragile baby, casing feels pretty much crap. And as a matter of fact it is, compared to 7D... :thumbsup:
Personally I'm avoiding aps-c lenses, but of course you'll want that wide angle too so yeah... however it's too early to say if/when aps-c dissapears from the market, but no matter how you put it it's always nice to have "real" glass in your collection. When you someday go fullframe there's most likely still decent value on your old crop sensor lenses.
Great info thanks! frubsen, I guess I wasn't totally aware that no matter what lens its always in 35mm so you get 1.6x crop on APS-C sensors no matter what. Thanks for the info Martin, also though there is no HD live feed from the t2i, but isn't there a live feed it just happens to be downrezed standard definition from the HDMI??? I was aware the construction quality is nowhere the 7d and the few other things you mentioned, but still I don't think it justifies (personally to me) the 2x the price of the t2i. This would be my first DSLR but I've owned a few other pro-sumer video cameras in the past. It just seems at the moment the t2i has the best bang for the buck: photographic and video capabilities. But I "read in" that your saying it may just be best to stick with EF lenses (I assume what you meant by "real")? At the moment I'm just considering buying the t2i kit (body, kit lens... blah blah) and get shooting. An then add a good EF lens/lenses shortly following. In that way I can take the EF lens/lenses with me to a fullframe. I'm just thinking ahead slightly. Does this line of thinking sound correct?? Great info so far thanks!
I'd say it's a good call to buy mostly lenses that are made for full frame sensors, yes. (Mount is the same, you can use EF-S on a full frame like 5D too, but it will vignette). After all, it's a fair amount of money you spend on lenses, and _if_ it happens the future is crop sensor death, well... On a positive note you can buy a lens like the Tokina 11-16 and get amazing wide angle shots. As far as I know there will be compromises to image quality if you use a EF fisheye lens and using the 1.6 crop factor to get a wide angle.
The live feed will downres to SD, of course works fine for framing but getting critical focus can get tricky, at least on the cheaper monitors. A firmware hack that unlocks 1080i/p live feed while recording on t2i is unlikely since it's a single processor handeling the information (unlike 7D).
The live feed will downres to SD, of course works fine for framing but getting critical focus can get tricky, at least on the cheaper monitors. A firmware hack that unlocks 1080i/p live feed while recording on t2i is unlikely since it's a single processor handeling the information (unlike 7D).
Don't use an EF-S lens on a 5DII body! AT ALL! You'll likely damage the mirror since the EF-S lens is designed to sit slightly deeper in the lens mount.
This doesn't apply to 3rd party lenses which have the same EF mount as FF lenses.
But yes, I'm sticking to FF lenses on my 550D, (Even though getting fast wides I can afford is a problem) and making sure they'll mount on my old 5D, so when I move to a FF vDSLR I'll still have compatible lenses.
Dave
This doesn't apply to 3rd party lenses which have the same EF mount as FF lenses.
But yes, I'm sticking to FF lenses on my 550D, (Even though getting fast wides I can afford is a problem) and making sure they'll mount on my old 5D, so when I move to a FF vDSLR I'll still have compatible lenses.
Dave
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You may be right, but I just shot a second project with a 550D that will paid for 4 more of them, so don't underestimate it.
My clients are getting over it, when they see the images that come out of it.
Actually I'm surprised because I usually have an EX3 on location and didn't think they would accept the 550D alone, but this is the future.
Of course with a matte box on the front twice the size of the camera and back viewer, the camera is sort of hidden.
I shot another project with the 550D and 7D side by side and the image is virtually identical. The 7D body is much nicer and weatherproof, but for all that extra size and weight I'd rather it be a full frame 5D sensor inside.
They are all great cameras.
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100% agree. Sticking with Fullframe lenses is a wise choice.