Dvx100a Skateboarding Audio

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Eli100a

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For fisheye shots im wondering how high i should set the channels? Should a little be going into the red? or is it okay to go into the red a bit? Im looking for that really nice hollowish sound that the dvx produces, but sometimes i get it and sometimes i dont.
 
What does a fisheye lens have to do with sound? If you're talking about audio level peaking, then into the red occasionally is fine but to get the "hollow" sound, that refers to accentuated midrange to lower mid frequencies which you can adjust in post. Peaking levels into the red should not affect hollowness or frequency response. Try rephrasing your question in case I completely missed it.
 
he is going to be close to the skater thats why no point to film far away and waste 800$ on some good glass
 
^^^ I know, but he's asking an audio question - that's why I was confused about why he specifically mentioned the type of lens he's using.
 
Yes, the reason why i am asking about fisheye is because i will be a lot closer to the actual skateboarder. ive been having it go not into the red at all, and it was too low and now it seems on my last couple of clips its been too high, lots of red and not exactly what im looking for.
 
Eli100a said:
Yes, the reason why i am asking about fisheye is because i will be a lot closer to the actual skateboarder. ive been having it go not into the red at all, and it was too low and now it seems on my last couple of clips its been too high, lots of red and not exactly what im looking for.
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Audio is not an auto-pilot application. You have to adjust your settings every time you move the camera to a new setup.

I assume you're using the built-in, stereo mics? You might want to invest in a better mic, like the Rode NTG-1 or NTG-2, and a shock mount and windscreen. But that aside...

Audio levels should be averaging around -12dB. The DVX's audio meters aren't numbered, so Panasonic added a little reference mark: the cross-hatched, white meter segment just before red. That's your goal. Close to or far from the subject. Occasionally bumping one or two red segments is okay, but you don't want to hit the top as that will result in some nasty distortion.

About the "hollowish" sound you seem to favor, that's a result of recording at a loinger distance from the subject. The mics are far away, and are picking up not only the sounds of the skateboarder but all the reflections from the pavement and walls and benches, and everything in between. It's not a "hollow" sound, it's a distant sound. You aren't going to get that with a mic that's close to the subject, where it will hear more of the subject in relation to the reflections and background noises.
 
yes i use a filming board, its super quiet. The hollow sound im referring to though is not from a distant, its just how the dvx100 audio sounds compared to lets say a sony vx2100. For some reason though my audio hasnt really been coming out like i want it. I just cant seem to find that sweet spot yet. Ill try now to aim for the white bar that comes in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BfaIU8jWos

this segment was shot with the dvx100a and the century mark 2 for dvx100.
 
ALC can be found in your setup menus. It's not going to be a fail-safe, but it can help tame some sudden peaks. Not that this is not an "auto level control," but is rather a limiter.

As for the difference in sound between the Panasonic and the Sony... would you mind posting an A-B sample that puts the two side-by-side for comparison?
 
Eli100a said:
yes i use a filming board, its super quiet. The hollow sound im referring to though is not from a distant, its just how the dvx100 audio sounds compared to lets say a sony vx2100. For some reason though my audio hasnt really been coming out like i want it. I just cant seem to find that sweet spot yet. Ill try now to aim for the white bar that comes in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BfaIU8jWos

this segment was shot with the dvx100a and the century mark 2 for dvx100.
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Dude that guy Rips! was using a dvx100 but now i film with a canon 7D

What ratio was that clip filmed in? everything looked really swished , he should have filemd it Squeeze mode

got some dvx100 clips in there

http://www.youtube.com/user/keaper
 
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as far as the side by side you can just check some vx footage and then check dvx. The dvx has more of a cloudy, much deeper sound than the vx which is more crisp, but for some reason i really like the dvx standard audio, but i havent been able to pin point the deeper sound.
 
did some filming today and everything came out nice. now im only going 1 - 2 bars into the red max and it all turns out great. thanks guys! i didnt know that the first white dash in the meter is the sweet spot.. hah thanks!
 
Eli100a said:
did some filming today and everything came out nice. now im only going 1 - 2 bars into the red max and it all turns out great. thanks guys! i didnt know that the first white dash in the meter is the sweet spot.. hah thanks!
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So the ALC helped? glad to hear :)
 
i actually didnt even setup ALC, i plan to though for the next time i film, i just filmed really quick but spent time setting up the audio until it was perfect for the distance i was.
 
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