DVX vs HVX

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riky

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I have a dvx 100, and I really happy with it. I,m thinkyn on buying or rent a HVX, but I dont wont to have problems on capture, editing etc to work with DVCPRO 50 codec and FCP. I dont wont to spend lot of time learning a very complex workflow with P2.
What do you think about it?
What complex the P2 workflow is?


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My opinion: P2 workflow is a breeze. So much easier than tape, provided you have proper NLE support. FCP does have proper support, but files have to be re-wrapped into mov's first.

Jason
 
riky said:
I dont wont to spend lot of time learning a very complex workflow with P2.
What do you think about it?
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Riky, I'm 48 years old and after 30 years in the biz I've learned that you should NEVER stop learning.
This HD technology, various file format wars, Tapeless workflow, is a lot to learn for an "old dawg" but I spend time every day reading up on the new technology, reading other opinions, I go to NAB every year, and welcome the challenges.

I understand your reservations, and maybe not now, but unless you are retiring in the next couple months, you need to learn something new every day. Starting today! :smile:
I wish you well.
 
P2 is a freakin dream to work with. I shudder at the thought of going back to work with tape. If anything, tape is more difficult to work with, with all that logging and capturing. P2 definitely has a learning curve, just with technobabble and software / hardware / etc., but it has definitely cut my editing time way down. I highly recommend upgrading! You wont regret ot. Especially with the drop in price of 8gb cards!
 
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If it's too much work to deal with the hvx, you can hire a DoP. They usually love the camera and know stuff about it, I've heard of.
 
P2 is a much simpler workflow than tape until you exceed the capacity of your card(s). Then a computer is required to offload on site so you can reuse the cards. Even then it's quite easy, and by the end of the day everything's captured.

As the cards get bigger and cheaper the P2 advantage will be tremendous:

-Two 32 Gb cards (due by late '07) will offer 160 minutes continuous HD recording at 720p 24.

-The ultimate as now envisioned, two 128GB cards, will allow a continuous 640 minutes (almost 11 hours!) at 720/24p and well over 4 hours at 10801.

Should be enough for just about anything this side of a congressional filibuster...
 
i gotta tell ya, i was a bit nervous when i first went p2. but its CAKE! a real time saver!!! and there is nothing really "complicated" about it.

it is a bit clunky at the finder level - i cant quite get my head around their random name/number convention... why wouldnt they let you assign at least a scene NAME to the files? A34NY108B89HZ followed by N123VGT4572G in sequence doesnt make ANY SENSE AT ALL...

but what i do is just make SCENE NAME/CARD DUMP NUMBER folders on the destination drive and work from that.
 
I don't do much editing myself but the last short I shot and edited, I pretty much created a folder on the desktop called P2, then inside it had folders like P2 1, P2 2, P2 3, P2 4, etc and everything went in sequentially.

In FCP, I create a bin for each P2 card and then imported the footage straight into there, then created bins for each scene and later pulled each take into its proper scene/shot bin. From there, it was just scrubbing through different shots to find what I liked and pop it into the timeline. Really, it's been much easier than my previous workflow of shooting to DV, capturing as one big file, chopping it up at the cuts and then dragging everything into different folders.
 
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