DVCPRO to HDV

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serik

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Hej,

I think about shooting with the HVX-200 and edit with Premiere 2. (Why? Because thats the setting I can use for free.)

Is there a easy way to convert the DVCPRO files from the Panasonic to HDV?

Thanks.

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Because I only have a editing system with Premiere and as far as i know i cannot edit DVCPRO with Premiere 2. But if there is a way to do this i would be happy. :-)
 
Look into Raylight, or Serious Magic DVCPRO-HD Decoder, or CineForm. Any of them will give you the ability to edit HVX footage on Premiere.
 
serik said:
Hej,

I think about shooting with the HVX-200 and edit with Premiere 2. (Why? Because thats the setting I can use for free.)

Is there a easy way to convert the DVCPRO files from the Panasonic to HDV?
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Raylight runs $195.00USD.

Why even consider transcoding?
 
Out of curiosity - is there an answer to his question?

Can you convert DVCPro to HDV?

I like his lateral thinking on this. As a stop gap measure until Adobe get it sorted. it could be helpful for many others.
 
Can you? Of course.

But you still need to buy a tool that can understand MXF and convert the material to something else, and at that point you really are better off keeping the material in its native format or an intermediate codec that doesn't force you into the tradeoffs you get from going to HDV.

Cineform, Raylight or the Serious Magic/Adobe DVCProHD Decoder will let you work with the HVX200 material from inside Premiere 2 without throwing away half the color information and converting to what is essentially an acquisition-only codec.
 
...are you actually saying HDV is only an acquisition format?

Premiere can handle it natively (evidently) and that could be an advantage on some projects. Seeing as there is an encode process going to happen anyway, it could be fine to use HDV on certain occassions (eg non broadcast )

For the record, what is the "tool" that does the job of converting mxf to HDV?
 
AN HDV deck. Connect the component outs of the HVX to the inputs of the HDV deck, than put a cassete, and record.
 
SPZ said:
AN HDV deck. Connect the component outs of the HVX to the inputs of the HDV deck, than put a cassete, and record.
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Sorry, won't work. No HDV deck has high-def inputs.

If you want to convert DVCPRO-HD to HDV, you're going to have to import the MXF file onto the timeline, then tell Premiere to render out an HDV file.

And frankly there is no good reason to do that; it'll take a tremendous amount of time and you'll be giving up your 4:2:2 color space.
 
Shooter said:
...are you actually saying HDV is only an acquisition format?
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Yes.

It's a compromise to let people record HD on the same inexpensive MiniDV tapes that they are used to from their DV cameras. In order to allow that to happen, it uses interframe compression and compressed audio to fit the HD material into the same 25Mbps bandwidth used by the lowly consumer MiniDV cameras.

There are programs that can edit HDV, but it takes considerable horsepower, and because the GOP structure means the current frame may depend on a series of frames preceeding it, scrubbing through the timeline (especially backwards) is pretty involved, and even a one-pixel change to the current frame may impact a series of frames that follow because they only encode differences. Don't get me started on tape dropouts and how they ripple through subsequent frames.

It takes less horsepower to edit DVCProHD than HDV, and you get intraframe compression, twice the color sampling, and four channels of uncompressed PCM audio. On a P4D 840 EE using Edius 4 Broadcast, I've edited three DVCProHD tracks + three DV25 tracks + 1 WAV audio track with filters and transitions in realtime without hardware acceleration.
 
We used a Sony Z1U with a desktop G5 and Final Cut Pro for about two months.

There were some issues about "conforming" footage once edited, but in all honesty, we produced some very nice footage.

My view is that the rap on HDV is a little overblown.

We own a HVX200 now and feel that workflow post production is more efficient, but the p2 card technology creates other issues,
 
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