do you mostly shoot 24p or 30p or 60p and why?

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do you mostly shoot 24p or 30p or 60p and why?

thanks in advance to those who care to share?

be well.

rob
smalltalk productions
nyc
 
For my own stuff, it always ends up in 24fps.

For dialogue and sound sync stuff, usually 24fps. But for documentary and music video B-Roll stuff, 30 to 60 fps then conform to 24fps. Even for 30fps footage when conformed to 24fps, it just has a slightly nicer, subtle slow motion feel that I really like aesthetically for B-Roll.

I'm on an FS700 and I am loving the high frames rates, especially coming from Canon and their horrible half-res slow motion. For the way I like things to look since I do mostly artistic pieces, music videos and docs, I tend to shoot 60fps a lot. Sometime higher for super drama.

Just depends on the look and feeling you like to convey I guess.
 
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If it's a personal project I stick to 24p, I like the look I have become accustomed to it. However at times, I will use 30 as well.... I don't dread 30, but I prefer the look of 24.

I never use 60, I think it looks awful (even in video-games lol), however if someone asks for it to be 60 and they are paying they can sure have it. Nothing I shoot for myself is 60 though, unless its for over cranking. There has been a lot of talk about 48, and truthfully I can't see me liking it as I already prefer 24 to 30....

They are all different looks, if YOU think it will look good then go with it, do what YOU like...... There are rules for what looks "filmic" or what the "correct settings are" but if you are working for yourself, you can do whatever.

Also tastes change, I started doing a TON of stuff at 30 for TV and was initially off-put by the look of 24, however once I started doing more narrative work I got more comfortable with it and taste changed.
 
That's interesting Chris, about 60% of the stuff that I do that goes to TV or web is now 23.976 final output. 29.97 is still pretty requested though
 
For stuff I know is going tv, I shoot 30 because it's gonna go out to tv at that rate, (so why shoot 24?)
for the web 24 makes sense... Vimeo, youtube etc all broadcast (typically) at 24 if I remember correctly???
 
Hmmmm... I guess it's just different clients. I just worked on the Fall and Winter Rebrand for The Disney Channel (major broadcast project) and we gave them all the .mov at 23.976. But then again, we also do a lot of work for Red Bull and all their stuff is 29.976. It's pretty split these days for me. I think if they need our 23.976 files to be 29.97, then they just add interlacing.
 
I shoot Weddings entirely at 60p. I then edit everything on a 24p timeline. That way I get the pseudo film-stutter look of 24fps and any clip I want can be slowed down smoothly cuz it was shot at 60fps. I don't totally know if there's a big difference between what footage looks like that was actually shot at 24p compared to footage shot at 60p but then tossed onto a 24p timeline but they seem pretty close to me so that's what I do.
 
gene_can_sing said:
Hmmmm... I guess it's just different clients. I just worked on the Fall and Winter Rebrand for The Disney Channel (major broadcast project) and we gave them all the .mov at 23.976. But then again, we also do a lot of work for Red Bull and all their stuff is 29.976. It's pretty split these days for me. I think if they need our 23.976 files to be 29.97, then they just add interlacing.
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That was my (poorly worded) point. The client may ask for 24, or accept 24, but if it's for tv, it's IS going to be shown at 30, If you know you're going to be shooting for tv, why not shoot it at that frame rate? (granted....virtually all the movies you watch on tv were originally shot at 24 and look fine on tv after being stretched to 30 so, no big deal....just think it's good practice to shoot accordingly.)
 
The Irish TRex said:
I shoot Weddings entirely at 60p. I then edit everything on a 24p timeline. That way I get the pseudo film-stutter look of 24fps and any clip I want can be slowed down smoothly cuz it was shot at 60fps. I don't totally know if there's a big difference between what footage looks like that was actually shot at 24p compared to footage shot at 60p but then tossed onto a 24p timeline but they seem pretty close to me so that's what I do.
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t-i-trex-

that's an interesting thought.

thanks for sharing.

be well.

rob
smalltalk productions
nyc
 
deliverables contract and use what i'm delvering.. currently shooting 25P in europe (to minimise flickering street lamps) for a 23.98 & 24 delivery.

never have been near 30 or 60 unless it's a slo-mo to be used @ 23.98
 
95% of the time im shooting 1080p 60p because I shoot action sports. I've shot for tv a couple times, did 30p and everything else I shoot 24p.
 
24 when I can, 25 when I must (living in PAL land).

Thanks god, I never must shoot something with a decimal point behind it.
It's the most awkward thing, I can think of.
 
Almost always 30P. It's going to television, where 30fps is the norm. I occasionally get calls for 24P, even a few 60i.
 
Chris Johnston said:
For stuff I know is going tv, I shoot 30 because it's gonna go out to tv at that rate, (so why shoot 24?) for the web 24 makes sense... Vimeo, youtube etc all broadcast (typically) at 24 if I remember correctly???
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Vimeo, YouTube, ect. don't "broadcast", nor do they really care about framerate at all. I wish they supported 60p because I'd like to do some high framerate cinematography, but alas...

I never shoot 30p unless I have a specific reason, or its specifically requested by a client. Even for TV. Almost everything you see on TV was shot 24p, and not just the movies. TV shows, commercials, ect. ect. Only thing that's not is "news" shows, whether normal news or sports news or whatever. I will guarantee you that on a typical broadcast TV network day, the vast majority of what you see was either originally shot in 24p or 60i.
 
I always setup my fs100 1080@50P for: slow motion possibility and fluide mouvements. If needed, i change my shutter speed from 50 to 25 when i need to have better sensibilty (in very low light condition). Be care when shutter is @25, mouvements need to be very slow if you don't want judder effect. I don't need to return into camera menu to change recording mode from 1080P@50P to1080@25P .
I edit and export my master with PP @25P.
sorry for my english.
 
Postmaster said:
24 when I can, 25 when I must (living in PAL land).

Thanks god, I never must shoot something with a decimal point behind it.
It's the most awkward thing, I can think of.
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pretty easy really to work with, actualy a total non-issue usualy when it's 23.98/24/25... finish in what you shot in, and if you are using a Avid Symp, universal mastering takes care of it, it even keeps mutiple timecodes so you what your show length is in each output format

Or just playout to a HDcam / HDSR at your post frame rate and re-set it to playback at the desired rate a frame's always a frame ;-)

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