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stripped my slide + some more info

stripped my slide + some more info

Well I received my slide pieces yesterday and went to the store to pick up a drill, drill bit, tap and tap wrench. The tap wrench was too small for the tap so i decided to plug the tap into the drill and off I went slowly drilling into center hole of 9 holes. I drilled out with too much pressure but no worries cause the Hex bolt went in and out nicely.

I went out shooting today and after 2 hours of use i stripped the center hole. I no longer have to screw the slide on. SO my only choice is to use 2 tripods now ( one on each end). Is there some type of nut i can place into center hole to keep track on tripod?Doesnt seem like there is enough HAX sticking out for one to fit.

Also I noticed that the tripod head is a bit loose with a 1 inch hax so i put a few washers underneath the carriage.

Also I realized that you can just place a 2 inch hax bolt on each ens of track as a stopper.

Any advice on my dilemma?


BTW i really like the shots i got today although 1 meter track seems too short for wider shots and not much movement is noticeable. What do you gous thingk about getting a 2 meter track?
 
Sorry to hear this Lucas, and maybe you don't need to hear this, but tapping threads should never be attempted with a hand drill. Hindsight and all, so my apoligies for stating the obvious.

Well, if you absolutely want to use one tripod, there is no harm (and you may find the results to be far better) in drilling a fresh hole just to the left or right of the center hole. I know, now you're off center, BUT, the aluminum is WAY thicker. Tapping it won't be as easy, but drill as straight as you can (drill press is best). Youll end up with a great deal of surface area for threads, and the increase in strength will far out-handle the offset position of the tripod to center.

Just an idea, ya know?
 
Very nice setup.
Was there a reason you went with an expensive tripod head like that ? is it because you wanted the longer handle ? , now I'm thinking of buying the one you have there in the video.

I'm looking closely at your pieces and I see the bottom of the FilmTools 4" riser is threaded.... did you have the guy drill a simple hole into the carriage ( but he did NOT thread that hole ) ? ... so a bolt just slides up into the hole of the carriage, and then that bolt threads into the 4" riser ? ... I also see a rounded nut on that bolt coming up through the carriage... so it is basically double bolted.... ( ? ) I'm not quite seeing how your neighbor did it.

- am I correct about this ? ... I'm trying to stay away from any threading, and that part there doesn't look like I it would need to be.


The other question I have is how you have the Igus rail attached to the tripod. Did you thread this part ? or is this also a nut and bolt ?

I'd really appreciate it if you could snap a few pics of that area, to give me an idea. I really want to stay away from threading the rail.

Thanks for your time

Dave.


I finally got my slider put together.
I put some before and after shots on Vimeo. I hope this helps!


Visit the Vimeo page for more details:
http://vimeo.com/9595377
 
I really like your feet, they look very nice. The nicest DIY I've seen for feet actually. I also see you have threaded a new hole ( not an existing hole that came on the Igus rail )

I got my rail the other day, and I can't believe anyone would even try to thread one of the pre-made holes with so little material to actually thread. I would never trust a $700 camcorder or a $200 DSLR with a $2000 lens on that,, no thanks.

Very very nice job you did on this.

The hex screws - where did you buy these ? and did you thread the ends yourself ? ( I don't know if I could do this myself with a hand drill ) would need to take it to a machine shop I think.

Your feet look like wood, at first I thought they were some sort of pressed plastic, but now I'm guessing paint wood. Good job.

If you start selling this kit, I think there would be a few buyers.
Finished my slider this weekend, thanks to the information here...

Thanks!

http://rebelvideo.blogspot.com/2010/02/diy-camera-slider-aka-zazaslider-or.html
 
Thanks very much for the kind words!!

The ends are plywood painted black, they don't look too bad but they could easily look better. I didn't want to put too much effort into them in case they didn't work, but they seem OK so I might finish them a little nicer now.

The ends are pretty easy to thread but you don't use a drill, you should tap by hand and turn approx 1/2 a turn clockwise to cut some thread, then half a turn anti-clockwise to clear the tap a little - keep going until you've threaded enough. Mine were a little wonky to be honest, but it doesn't show when you put the screws in. I tapped the ends first to get a feel for the metal before I got enough courage to drill/tap the centre hole, because thats one you don't really want to mess up.

The hex screws I bought off eBay, here in the UK we're all metric - it's very difficult to get the 3/8" 16 screws needed for the tripod. So when I bought those for the tripod I also bought 4 more for the ends. But I like the idea that I just need an allen key to take them off rather than carrying a wrench around with me.

Thanks again!


I really like your feet, they look very nice. The nicest DIY I've seen for feet actually. I also see you have threaded a new hole ( not an existing hole that came on the Igus rail )

I got my rail the other day, and I can't believe anyone would even try to thread one of the pre-made holes with so little material to actually thread. I would never trust a $700 camcorder or a $200 DSLR with a $2000 lens on that,, no thanks.

Very very nice job you did on this.

The hex screws - where did you buy these ? and did you thread the ends yourself ? ( I don't know if I could do this myself with a hand drill ) would need to take it to a machine shop I think.

Your feet look like wood, at first I thought they were some sort of pressed plastic, but now I'm guessing paint wood. Good job.

If you start selling this kit, I think there would be a few buyers.
 
Hi Okrasa,

so to clarify, you did not drill a hole first in the end, you only used your tap
to do the 'drilling" and the threading at the same time ?

I guess I need to actually take a better look at a tap and die set, I didn't think that a tap was sharp enough to thread a hole that didn't exist , meaning I always was under the impression one need to have a hole first, in order to tap it.

Great job, so for the feet, I guess you drew out a nice pattern for the feet and cut them out, using what ? a jig saw ? .... I may have to try this. I don't want to spend more than $20 on feet.



The ends are pretty easy to thread but you don't use a drill, you should tap by hand and turn approx 1/2 a turn clockwise to cut some thread, then half a turn anti-clockwise to clear the tap a little - keep going until you've threaded enough.
 
so to clarify, you did not drill a hole first in the end, you only used your tap
to do the 'drilling" and the threading at the same time ?

The track comes with holes in already, well at least mine did...

Great job, so for the feet, I guess you drew out a nice pattern for the feet and cut them out, using what ? a jig saw ? .... I may have to try this. I don't want to spend more than $20 on feet.

Yup, cut them with a jigsaw. Then put them together and went over with a sander to make sure they were both the same. I put rubber washers on first, they're repair parts for taps (faucets over there?) very cheap. The plywood was an offcut I had laying around anyway - so very cheap! :)
 
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To clarify, you had holes at the ENDS ? of your rail ?, I just checked mine and there are no holes. I'm talking about the ends... not on the top of the rail.....

Thanks for the info on the ends, sounds like a good project to try out. :-)


The track comes with holes in already, well at least mine did...



Yup, cut them with a jigsaw. Then put them together and went over with a sander to make sure they were both the same. I put rubber washers on first, they're repair parts for taps (faucets over there?) very cheap. The plywood was an offcut I had laying around anyway - so very cheap! :)
 
To clarify, you had holes at the ENDS ? of your rail ?, I just checked mine and there are no holes. I'm talking about the ends... not on the top of the rail.....

Thanks for the info on the ends, sounds like a good project to try out. :-)


Yes, I've borrowed this photo from the first post:

1220803163.jpg


You can see the holes in the ends, this is how mine came. If yours doesn't have the holes in then I can see why you were thinking about getting a machine shop to do the work...!
 
Very nice setup.
Was there a reason you went with an expensive tripod head like that ? is it because you wanted the longer handle ? , now I'm thinking of buying the one you have there in the video.
Hi Dave, I chose the 701HDV because it supports the 5D MKII w Grip and lens very well.

I'm looking closely at your pieces and I see the bottom of the FilmTools 4" riser is threaded.... did you have the guy drill a simple hole into the carriage ( but he did NOT thread that hole ) ? ... so a bolt just slides up into the hole of the carriage, and then that bolt threads into the 4" riser ? ... I also see a rounded nut on that bolt coming up through the carriage... so it is basically double bolted.... ( ? ) I'm not quite seeing how your neighbor did it.
I put a 5/8 Hex through the threaded carriage. Since that was super tight, I was able to screw on the Filmtools riser (which comes threaded). I didn't like the small part of threads sticking out the top, so I just topped it off (It's mostly for aesthetics)

- am I correct about this ? ... I'm trying to stay away from any threading, and that part there doesn't look like I it would need to be.


The other question I have is how you have the Igus rail attached to the tripod. Did you thread this part ? or is this also a nut and bolt ?
I threaded the middle hole, but I would recommend drilling a new hole since it would have more surface area. It feels pretty secure though and I haven't had any issues yet.

I'd really appreciate it if you could snap a few pics of that area, to give me an idea. I really want to stay away from threading the rail.
I basically followed the setup from the 1st page. I should have taken a picture of the rail attached to the tripod. I was thinking an extra precaution would to bolt the top of the tripod where the rail connects, I just have to buy a nut at Lowes.

Thanks for your time

Dave.
 
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