Totally agreeing with you, just giving you of an example of SD DVD creation from an initial format that's better than miniDV.
GH2 Did Francis Ford Coppola really prefer the Gh2 at the Zacuto shootout
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Totally agreeing with you, just giving you of an example of SD DVD creation from an initial format that's better than miniDV.
gonzo_entertainment
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RedRock adapter and Nikon lenses. It didn't look bad, but a little noisey (even from Blu ray) when projected on a big screen. The 5D2 looks better, not light years better, but noticeable. I wrote it off to the 1080i instead of 1080P and no doubt adapter killing a little resolution as well.
blazer003
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The hack is definitely not Placebo. In a less to reasonably detailed scene, there will only be slight differences. The standard 24 mbit codec is really very good. You'll see a tiny bit more detail here and there if you're pixel peeping, but overall, it's true, there is not a ton of difference. But you start shooting highly detailed, constantly changing scenes, the difference is astounding. Water is the subject where the difference is night and day.
This is a video I made of a bunch of random stuff I did in the summer. There are several shots in there before I hacked the cameras. The dogs fetching and @40 seconds that boat was shot before I hacked the camera. I don't know why I left that shot in there as I hate it every time I see it. The lighting is dull, but most of all the water looks like a macroblocked mess. Compare that with the next shot, and while water doesn't take up the whole shot, it is crisp and beautiful losing no detail in any area.
This is where the hack shines. Anything that has lots of detail you are going to get a VASTLY superior picture as the codec will break down/go into fall back mode when presented with lots of details.
Some people overplay what the hack does, but it is definitely useful, and with the moderate bitrates offer much more quality in high detailed scenes for a reasonable increase in file size.
This is a video I made of a bunch of random stuff I did in the summer. There are several shots in there before I hacked the cameras. The dogs fetching and @40 seconds that boat was shot before I hacked the camera. I don't know why I left that shot in there as I hate it every time I see it. The lighting is dull, but most of all the water looks like a macroblocked mess. Compare that with the next shot, and while water doesn't take up the whole shot, it is crisp and beautiful losing no detail in any area.
This is where the hack shines. Anything that has lots of detail you are going to get a VASTLY superior picture as the codec will break down/go into fall back mode when presented with lots of details.
Some people overplay what the hack does, but it is definitely useful, and with the moderate bitrates offer much more quality in high detailed scenes for a reasonable increase in file size.
dont start crazing DVD now you speak as a connoisseur of good PQ. i am glad you are happy with your results,i dont get macroblocking with my unhacked GH2 but except most seem happy with hacks
Then you're either not shooting any kind of scene with moving fine detail, or you don't know what macroblocking is.
maranfilms
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HVX200 footage with a redrock m2 encore looks beautiful if in proper lighting conditions. And to be honest, some of my best footage ever shot was with a xha1 handy35 dof adapter. Sharp, clean footage, that has a warm filmic look to it. If only I could get the same lowlight ability as with my gh2, I would use it for most shoots. It's just the light loss that hurts it so bad. And I dont always have the time to light as I need.
As far as the gh2 hack BEING a placebo. No it's the real deal. I was one of the last to hack my cam, but since I did, It's night and day. But that just may be do to the the flowmotion being a great patch, in fact the best I tried to date (2.2) Were so lucky to be working at this time in the biz, cameras are just amazing compared to ten yrs ago.
As far as the gh2 hack BEING a placebo. No it's the real deal. I was one of the last to hack my cam, but since I did, It's night and day. But that just may be do to the the flowmotion being a great patch, in fact the best I tried to date (2.2) Were so lucky to be working at this time in the biz, cameras are just amazing compared to ten yrs ago.
This is very true. The stock 720 60p is noticably bad even without a complicated scene, or any pixel peeping.
I wonder if the M3 would help that, outside of the general lack of lowlight on the XHA1 to start off with, of course.
Not sure what you're saying here or where you got that, but if you're saying that I prefer DVD over Blu-ray, you are greatly mistaken, and I don't see that I've ever posted anything that could even remotely be seen as advocating the opposite.
I fail to see how making 100 Blu-ray discs for personal use qualifies you to point out macroblocking issues.
gonzo_entertainment
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It DOES look good. The last film I shot on the HVX played at the world science fiction convention, won awards, was very successful on the festival circuit (granted mostly for reasons other than the camera it was shot on). Just for my aesthetic and the fact to my eye the footage is a little cleaner I like the 5D better. As noted light is the big issue. No comparison in the amount of gross wattage you have to throw at a scene to light it up with HVX and adapter.
gonzo_entertainment
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IMO any adapter footage is going to be a little soft (which I like, I shoot on a 5D after all) because of the extra glass, mirror, etc... more surfaces to have imperfections, get dirty, etc... etc... Though again, a little soft isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the guys who are crazy for uber sharp/crisp footage probably wouldn't like it.
Well i am probobly no expert on macroblcking but i have no problem with it,on another topic but what i cant fathom is how the owners who hack and also love ETC which makes macroblocking look like 4K,my cheap FZ150 has a i Zoom function that even on full 600mm plus my 1.7x extender does not lose video quality when switched on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgj58C4j9yk
The 45-200mm was not long enough where that was filmed so so i reluctantly used ETC a little but it sure is poo and i dont like soft poo.
Ah, that clearly explains where your opinion is stemming from.
Chris Adler
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ETC has its place, and can look great in the right circumstances.
maranfilms
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Agreed.
@GARY, I would love to check that dof combo out as well. I have used almost every dof adapter ever made, The sharpest without a doubt is the handy35. Problem is the biggest lens it works with is 72mm, unless they changed it. But that was several years ago, and they no longer make them now, and have changed to Edelkrone, now they make support gear. Which is also some of the best I have used.
maranfilms
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Me too, lol but there's times when I put up with the gigantic rig just because I like the soft warm look. The thing I hate, when I take a big rig to say the beach to shoot for the fun of it, then everybody comes over because it looks like a "professional" cam. It's the big cam = must be special syndrome that society can't seem to get over. Anyways, I learned, don't make eye contact, and look busy, they usually just walk past and stare like your there for a reason. I always hear "are the tall ships coming" So I usually BS them and say nope, but some flying discs are.lol