GH2 Did Francis Ford Coppola really prefer the Gh2 at the Zacuto shootout

flinty said:
A good film with a rubbish PQ puts me off,so i dont agree.
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I thought I made it abundantly clear that I was talking about the market I work in and the audience opinions...not mine or other filmmakers? I do need to worry about me being happy but in a low-budget fast turn around type of market, the buyer being happy is what really matters so if the buyer is satisfied with what a DSLR can give and doesn't care if it was something else...then you're in good shape at least from a starting point kind of view. You can shoot on higher quality gear, but ultimately it's not going to change my sales one bit. It'll come down to what I can be happy with as the filmmaker to satisfy myself, and whether or not the camera I picked was right for the job.
 
b_k said:
j1clark....are you a fan of Duncan Sheperd's film reviews? A fan being your views of cinematic work is inline with his?
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I haven't read the "San Diego Reader" in years, so this name sort of has slipped out of my mind. I had to do a quick check to recall... but I tend to not like 'film critics', due to the fact that many seem to only think stodgy 'french new tsunami' or whatever is the touch stone of 'value'. However, in the case of my brief look just now, Shepard does seem to have a place for Val Lewton... so, there is hope, that I may 'like' some of his reviews...

I think critics also sort of forget that 'most people' just go to movies for a quick escape... if only for the airconditioning and cold drinks on hot summer nights... and with that sort of 'attitude' entertainment need not be that high minded...
(In the olden days of drive-in theaters... the entertainment value could be nil since the only reason to go to the drive-in was to fool around in the back seat of a friend's car... and a plausible deniability of why one was in a dark car for hours...).
 
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Just put two more decked out GH2's on an NBC narrative, shooting next to Alexas (four cameras total). DP is switching from having used Canons to GH2s.

Word spreads fast... and, although I'm going to be invested in a Magic Cam, I sincerely hope that Panasonic takes this all to heart and practice. Their next champion could be much more premeditated, less accidental.
 
j1clark@ucsd.edu said:
I think critics also sort of forget that 'most people' just go to movies for a quick escape... if only for the airconditioning and cold drinks on hot summer nights... and with that sort of 'attitude' entertainment need not be that high minded...
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Yes some people just want to escape for a few hour, others watch more than 8 hours a day of TV programming. This is the source of common educated and culture today. I wish it was just escapism but its so much more.


j1clark@ucsd.edu said:
(In the olden days of drive-in theaters... the entertainment value could be nil since the only reason to go to the drive-in was to fool around in the back seat of a friend's car... and a plausible deniability of why one was in a dark car for hours...).
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What? people don't do that anymore? I would rather be kissing a real beauty than watching almost anything on a screen. I would say, they got the best entertainment and were better people for it.
 
Kholi said:
Just put two more decked out GH2's on an NBC narrative, shooting next to Alexas (four cameras total). DP is switching from having used Canons to GH2s.

Word spreads fast... and, although I'm going to be invested in a Magic Cam, I sincerely hope that Panasonic takes this all to heart and practice. Their next champion could be much more premeditated, less accidental.
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NBC narrative huh, I'm curious now :). I would definitely like to see some GH2 footage cutting with Alexa. You'll have to let me know when this mystery show ends up on TV or online so I can check it out!
 
Shoot typed NBC but meant ABC, I think the show is already airing but I'll find out when the new episodes with the GH2 footage are airing. Sounded like they'll be using them from here on out.

Also, I think the big feature that I hacked a fistful of cameras for, which were panavised as well, is almost wrapped. I'll check on that too.
 
Kholi said:
I think the show is already airing but I'll find out when the new episodes with the GH2 footage are airing. Sounded like they'll be using them from here on out.
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This is terrible news for Panasonic. I can't imagine how much their Pro Video sales will suffer.

In the immortal words of Skeletor "
Everything comes to he who waits... and I have waited so very long for this moment."​
 
It'll come down to what I can be happy with as the filmmaker to satisfy myself, and whether or not the camera I picked was right for the job.
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+1 exactly, I couldn't agree more. I'm yet to find even one pixel peeping audience member that has no interest in cameras. If it looks good, then thats all that matters. It doesn't matter what you you shoot on (WITHIN REASON), when it's final media is dvd, it's gonna have artifacts, and low res regardless.
 
I know what your saying. After watching blueray for years, popping in a dvd is tough to watch. But like you said, the public is very easy satisfied. As long as their entertained it's all good. And as we know in this day and age, it doesn't take much. Just watch an episode or "real housewives of orange county" Their about as unreal as it gets.
 
The company I'm doing work for shoots mostly with the Canon 7d, as it is a children's show delivered on the internet.

I was looking through the company video archive, when I stumbled across footage shot with the Red Mx. It immediately perked my interest.

The footage, which contained some close ups of a guys's face, made my jaw drop. Even though the footage is 1080p (I am assuming it was binned down from 5k) the level of detail was amazing.... really sharp eyelashes, skin pores, dandruff etc.

While I love my 2 Gh2's to death, I must admit that the difference in resolution between the Red and the Gh2 is significant... it's apparent to me... even on a 1080p frame.

That difference is lost when the footage goes to Vimeo or youtube, where most people will actually see Red footage.

In case you think it's the first time I've looked at Red footage... well...

I helped edit and grade some Red footage for a friend last year (first time I've actually looked at Red footage up close), and was thoroughly unimpressed. The footage was mostly unsharp.

Now I realized the unsharpness was due mostly to my friends shooting technique. Not sure what he did, but man.... he might as well shoot with mini-DV. The Red was absolutely wasted on him.
 
flinty said:
Yes dvd i cant believe they are not long gone,the public are easily satisfied.
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I only bought an HD TV about a year ago and only plugged my Blu Ray player (bought 2 years ago for four walling films) into it for the first time about 3 months ago. Blu Ray has not penetrated the market like they thought it would. It's still a fraction of DVD sales.
 
gonzo_entertainment said:
I only bought an HD TV about a year ago and only plugged my Blu Ray player (bought 2 years ago for four walling films) into it for the first time about 3 months ago. Blu Ray has not penetrated the market like they thought it would. It's still a fraction of DVD sales.
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I don't know that you're all that unusual... even now, years and years after blu-ray's introduction, people STILL spend 4x as much on DVDs as they do on blu-rays. According to Nielsen's research in VideoScan, 79% of consumer entertainment dollars that were spent to buy entertainment was spent on DVD, and only 21% on blu-ray. And when you consider that blu-rays are more expensive than DVDs, that puts the actual ratio of title-to-title even higher in DVD's favor. Of course, many shows aren't released on blu-ray yet either, so draw your own conclusions, but the fact remains, of every consumer dollar spent to buy discs, 80% goes to DVD even today in mid-2012 (those Nielsen figures are as of July 14, 2012).

Among the top-20 titles it's more evenly matched; the #1 title sold 72.58% blu-ray and 27.42% DVD, and the #20-selling title was 38.01% blu-ray, 61.99% DVD.
 
Indeed.
A "professionally" mastered/authored DVD can look great. It's not AS sharp as Blu Ray, there isn't AS much detail in the shadows, but for the average viewer, they really couldn't care less.
 
That’s funny because I started buying Blu Ray’s a couple of years ago and swore I’d never go back. But the Blu Ray “New Movie”prices became so prohibitive lately that I went back to buying DVDs instead. I now realize after watching many DVDs on my player, which does a phenomenal job of resizing the image, that it does not look bad at all. I can understand why folks, even if they have a Blu Ray player, are not so quick to purchase a BR vs.buying a DVD. Sure…the BR looks much crisper and cleaner when we pixel peep but for the average “Joe”…why bother?

BTW, I think BR’s look even better than what I see in theaters sometimes. Am I crazy?
 
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