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I imagine it won't look anything like that because of the compression when it gets to 1080.

Maybe if the bitrate was ramped high as heck.
 
it is nice grain and that's a compliment coming from a grain wonk ( as in studying the stuff on film under a microscope)
Being a relative newbie, i need your guidance and forgiveness in this next statement.
The fear is that at 1080 the CODEC will create nasty 'blocks' that will eliminate the grain. Am i right?
Pouring over D5MkIII posts I gather that Canon is employing MJPEG for that camera which should be 'sexier' compression.
Is there a chance that Nikon would employ such a codec in an upgrade as well?
 
Zephyrnoid said:
it is nice grain and that's a compliment coming from a grain wonk ( as in studying the stuff on film under a microscope)
Being a relative newbie, i need your guidance and forgiveness in this next statement.
The fear is that at 1080 the CODEC will create nasty 'blocks' that will eliminate the grain. Am i right?
Pouring over D5MkIII posts I gather that Canon is employing MJPEG for that camera which should be 'sexier' compression.
Is there a chance that Nikon would employ such a codec in an upgrade as well?
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The exciting aspect of the new Nikons it the ability to completely bypass the internal codec limitations with external recorders. With options like the Black Magic Hyperdeck Shuttle available for $345, there's really no reason to limit yourself to just the internal codec for proper video work.

Recording to DNxHD or ProRes will eliminate virtually all of the compression artefacts you might otherwise encounter.
 
Grug said:
The exciting aspect of the new Nikons it the ability to completely bypass the internal codec limitations with external recorders. With options like the Black Magic Hyperdeck Shuttle available for $345, there's really no reason to limit yourself to just the internal codec for proper video work.

Recording to DNxHD or ProRes will eliminate virtually all of the compression artefacts you might otherwise encounter.
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I am placing my best bets in the same basket. Why not if there's no muddy codec to deal with?
 
Pretty cool iso comparison between the d700 and d800:
(no noise reduction applied)
D700_D800_01600_comp.jpeg
 
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James, thanks for posting. I am even thinking to buy two D4 and D800 bodies. It is always good to bring with us glass in both ends. This fine grain is amazingly pleasant. And I think the OLPF will help in a lot of situations. You can always use the Caprock filters as you wish.

http://www.nikonusa.com/Learn-And-E...hnology/gy43mjgu/1/Moire-and-False-Color.html

Barry's article:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?200980-Caprock-Anti-Moire-Filters-Tested-on-the-7D

And some videos:

http://vimeo.com/12668818
http://vimeo.com/8990500
http://vimeo.com/16070464
http://vimeo.com/7523222

The last one shows quite well any filter is far away to be the ideal, even though any picture outcome is a balance between elements. And 36MP can be a game changer if properly executed. I believe clean HDMI output will also "clean" issues such as muddy codecs using wide end glass.
 
I'm just getting progessively more excited about this camera. High ISO performance is ridiculous given the resolution.
 
Emanuel said:
I believe clean HDMI output will also "clean" issues such as muddy codecs using wide end glass.
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Oh, how I hope so.

Grug said:
I'm just getting progessively more excited about this camera. High ISO performance is ridiculous given the resolution.
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It will be interesting to see the video quality at 100% in the real world (hope they introduce a log style). I really am excited about the idea of shooting stills portraits for documentary work.
 
Emanuel said:
James, thanks for posting. I am even thinking to buy two D4 and D800 bodies. It is always good to bring with us glass in both ends. This fine grain is amazingly pleasant. And I think the OLPF will help in a lot of situations. You can always use the Caprock filters as you wish.

http://www.nikonusa.com/Learn-And-E...hnology/gy43mjgu/1/Moire-and-False-Color.html

Barry's article:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?200980-Caprock-Anti-Moire-Filters-Tested-on-the-7D

And some videos:

http://vimeo.com/12668818
http://vimeo.com/8990500
http://vimeo.com/16070464
http://vimeo.com/7523222

The last one shows quite well any filter is far away to be the ideal, even though any picture outcome is a balance between elements. And 36MP can be a game changer if properly executed. I believe clean HDMI output will also "clean" issues such as muddy codecs using wide end glass.
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Very useful info. Thanks for that. Let's hope we don't need it for 99% of shooting.
 
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