D7100 available for preorder

The problem with the flip screen is it's surface isn't flat so you can't attach a z-finder to it which makes it useless for focussing. The D7100 has better white balance control, weather sealing, and longer battery run times and I expect it will have a bit of a resolution boost all of which make the upgrade worthwhile for me but I might keep the D5200 as a B cam. I never really missed the flip screen on my other DSLRs, I used a cheap 7" monitor when I needed it.
 
The GH1 isn't as bad as some would have you think. If you work within it's limitations it's not bad, but clearly the newer cams all have better DR and Color. The GH1 does have some good detail for such an older camera. It's only a little less than the GH2. I'm afraid that some are giving the D5200 a bit too much credit for it's detail level. It's not really that detailed according to testing. The D5200 isn't even reaching 700 lines. Whereas the D800 is solidly at about 800 and the D600 is just a little under that. For my tastes the hope is that the D7100 is closer to the D800. Comparing the GH1 vs D7100 footage it at least appears to be somewhere around 700+ lines tho that isn't scientific.

I hope that we all remember that Noise Reduction and higher ISO's will degrade the level of detail, so when doing tests we have to take that into account. Settings do matter.
 
John Caballero said:
The GH1 is yersteday's camera. Is a waste of time to compare. Also I wonder how effective the older lenses might be on a new digital camera like the D7100. The VR lenses are especially made for the new cameras and there is a reason for that. Look at the new 80-400 lens from Nikon by example with all those cute little buttons on the side. Maybe the usefulness of older glass is running out with the high megapixels on the new cams.
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Surely the 85mm f1.4 ais has better resolution and IQ than the 17-35 AF-S
 
Andrea189 said:
Surely the 85mm f1.4 ais has better resolution and IQ than the 17-35 AF-S
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I back up this opinion totally. I'm using AI/AIS glass on my D800 for stills and they rock the house. I don't think the 'older' lenses have any trouble with resolution - but the modern lenses can deal with purple fringing, CA, flare, etc better in some cases.
 
Andrea189 said:
Surely the 85mm f1.4 ais has better resolution and IQ than the 17-35 AF-S
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The earlier test at the promenade looked a lot sharper than the test with the primes which is a bit strange because the primes are sharper. I've been shooting with nikkor and Leica primes on the D5200 and everything is sharp.
 
squig said:
The earlier test at the promenade looked a lot sharper than the test with the primes which is a bit strange because the primes are sharper. I've been shooting with nikkor and Leica primes on the D5200 and everything is sharp.
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The onlly difference between the promenade and the test of the primes was the setting of sharpness, 1 in the promenade shots and 0 in the lens test. I actually filmed with the 17-35 too when I did the lens test, though I didn't include it in the edited clip, and it was not as sharp as the 85mm. I wonder if one point of sharpness can make big difference, what do you think?

PS I've just tried and there really is a big difference in sharpness with just one point added
 
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Yeah there's a noticeable difference between 0 and 1. From my testing 1 appears to be the optimum setting with a touch of post sharpening, any higher and edges start to look a bit artificial. I did my sharpening tests with a 105mm f/2.5 ai. The promenade resolution looked good and would look even better with a prime recorded externally to prores.
 
squig said:
Yeah there's a noticeable difference between 0 and 1. From my testing 1 appears to be the optimum setting with a touch of post sharpening, any higher and edges start to look a bit artificial. I did my sharpening tests with a 105mm f/2.5 ai. The promenade resolution looked good and would look even better with a prime recorded externally to prores.
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Did you try and record the D5200 to an external device? If so, what did you use? I am considering getting a Ninja II or a Blackmagic Hyperdeck 2, do you have any suggestion?
 
Andrea189 said:
Did you try and record the D5200 to an external device? If so, what did you use? I am considering getting a Ninja II or a Blackmagic Hyperdeck 2, do you have any suggestion?
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Not yet, I'm waiting to see if there's any new recorders announced at NAB, if not I'm getting a Ninja. The Hyperdeck is cheaper but it doesn't do the 60i to 24p pulldown. I don't know whether the D7100 outputs 60i or 24p.
 
squig said:
Not yet, I'm waiting to see if there's any new recorders announced at NAB, if not I'm getting a Ninja. The Hyperdeck is cheaper but it doesn't do the 60i to 24p pulldown. I don't know whether the D7100 outputs 60i or 24p.
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I must admit that I am totally confused by the pulldown business, I am in Europe, so 25p and, occasionally, 24p are the frame rate I'll use. As far as I can understand from the menu, The D7100 lets you choose the output to the HDMI port and 720p 25fps and 1080p 25 fps are among the options. Do I still need pulldown?
 
Lpowell said:
Not fair to overexpose the GH1 and blow out its highlights. To get the same exposure on both cameras, you'll need to set the GH1 at least 2/3 stops lower than the D7100.
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I will try that but I must say that the histogram on the GH1 was well distributed and white. The lens was infact half a stop closer than on the D7100.
 
the shadows don't look that different, it's the highlights that go out of control, so I would think it's just a more contrasty image with less DR
 
For me there is no debate as to the Dynamic Range of the Nikons. The D800, D600, D5200 have been tested to have the best DR. It would seems obvious that the D7100 has that same high level of latitude. Color is also not something to worry about. We all know about the issues with Aperture adjustment in Live View. The only question for me was the true level of Detail and so far the D800 has the tested best level of detail of all the Nikons at 800 lw/ph. The D600 is close behind the D800 at 750 lw/ph and the D5200 from one test site i've read is much lower at about 675 lw/ph horizontal x 625 vertical. The one huge plus for the D5200 is the lack of Moire and Aliasing. My hope is that the D7100 is closer to the D800 in terms of detail. We need more test comparisons to see for sure.
 
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