D7000 Official!

Again, don't spend your timing worrying about Nikon because these days they are doing very well. Expect them to sell lots and lots of the cameras, lenses, flashes or whatever else they manufacture. That's a fact.
 
First impression: I could live with that.

I'm not shooting HD, and I desperately need it. My Nikon D60 doesn't support my AF lenses (no autofocus) and the D7000 apparently does in addition to that wonderful video possibility.

Second impression: Is the compression going to hold up? You guys seem to think it won't, but I didn't see anything particularly disagreeable in the test footage.

Third Impression: By the time I save up, there could be GH2s and T2Is at rock bottom prices. Who knows...?
 
Polfilm - yes, the D7000 will support AF on non-servo lenses (it has an AF motor), like the D70, D80, & D90. (I've owned 'em all).

If the D7000 doesn't cut it for you, consider a T2i (or 7D or --60D?) and the lens adapter. I use it, and it works well with all my older and newer nikon glass. The T2i is nowhere near the still camera the D90 is (I knew the D90, and you T2i are no D90...) so keep that in mind as well.
 
I was set on buying a 60D in a few weeks but might consider waiting a bit for this.
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Heh! I was all for the 60D until I saw this camera. Now I'm stalled until I can see real results from the D7000. I like the neutral colours that the 60D can get, but so far any footage from the D7000 looks too vivid for my liking--whether it was just the settings or what?
 
Have the D90 now and Hands Down a Great Still Cam so I know the D7000 will be a Great improvement for me. Already on Pre-order.
 
John Caballero said:
A lot of the takes from both of Jarvis' pieces would have been destroyed by the the D90' jello and and RS.
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Okay, so you're saying the Nikon sanctioned video that you just saw gave you irrefutable proof the rolling shutter issues are now fixed?
Look, I'd agree they could improve it, sure.
With each new camera, that is something that should be expected.
However there's nothing else provided to conclude the rolling shutter is fixed.
If it were, Nikon would know to put it in print and boast it.
All I've seen so far is a short video that was professionally handled with the intention of exhibiting the positive characteristics of the camera. Nothing about that video indicated to me they were pushing it to show it didn't still have rolling shutter issues. Once somebody like Bloom or Stu or whoever around here can get their paws on one and push it, then we'll know. One of the first tests I want to see done is flashing lights, that of course wouldn't be the quintessential test, but it would be one test to prove if it were absolutely fixed vs incrementally improved.
 
I will say that IF...
If this camera improves the rolling shutter enough to where I know I can easily hold it like it isn't a glass of hydrochloric acid filled to the brim while walking on stones, then I'll put the 5D on ice and pick up one of these without question.
 
I say to everybody that is creating their epics, blockbusters and award winning films with the 5D don't even think of changing your cam. It has full frame and manual controls to make your film look pretty nice. Leave the D7000 alone and concentrate in producing your projects with the camera you have now. Don't let anything distract you.
 
Digigenic said:
One of the first tests I want to see done is flashing lights, that of course wouldn't be the quintessential test, but it would be one test to prove if it were absolutely fixed vs incrementally improved.
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I don't think that will prove much; for example, the HPX300 has flash band compensation to correct just that problem but still suffers from rolling shutter in general. I'd be happy with the standard panning test with some fence poles (or some other vertical lines).

I too think that if Nikon had solved the rolling shutter issue they would be making a BIG deal out of it. Although the Chase Jarvis team said that rolling shutter (and jello) were much better than the D90 they did not say if the was additional post processing for rolling shutter. There are segments that look like some stabilization software was used and some (at least Mercalli v2) stabilization plug-ins that work on rolling shutter too.

But still I hope Nikon have made some significant improvements in these areas.
 
All of the DSLR videos have issues. All need support to look really good they are not the best IMHO to hold when shooting video, etc, etc. I would really like to see the D7000 have more video controls. Shutter and ISO would be nice. I can set the aperture.

Digigenic said:
. Once somebody like Bloom or Stu or whoever around here can get their paws on one and push it, then we'll know.

I bet when Canon gives (pays) Bloom to go shoot some video with a new camera he does what he needs to do to make it look as good as he can just like the people Nikon gives cameras too. Probably a good gig to get and you sure are not going to say bad things about the camera.

It is still early in the game for VDSLRS. It is just going to get better for all of them.
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the main issue

the main issue

One of the main issues other than ergonomics with the DSLR's is that the AA filter is optimized for still photography- not video. Hence, the excessive aliasing (false detail) and other issues. The company that finds a solution to this by perhaps incorporating two different aa filters that switch according to what is being shot- will produce a game changer. Who knows how long that will take.
 
premiumphoto said:
One of the main issues other than ergonomics with the DSLR's is that the AA filter is optimized for still photography- not video. Hence, the excessive aliasing (false detail) and other issues. The company that finds a solution to this by perhaps incorporating two different aa filters that switch according to what is being shot- will produce a game changer. Who knows how long that will take.
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You can get your AA filter removed now: http://maxmax.com/nikon_d300HR.htm
 
premiumphoto said:
One of the main issues other than ergonomics with the DSLR's is that the AA filter is optimized for still photography- not video. Hence, the excessive aliasing (false detail) and other issues. The company that finds a solution to this by perhaps incorporating two different aa filters that switch according to what is being shot- will produce a game changer. Who knows how long that will take.
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Well, the other thing that's causing aliasing is that the sensor data is being overly downscaled. None of the DSLRs are actually resolving a full 1080p resolution which is part of why they alias, and is what causes moiré. I'd like a full 1080p before they even go into changing the AA filter.
 
John Caballero said:
Again, don't spend your timing worrying about Nikon because these days they are doing very well. Expect them to sell lots and lots of the cameras, lenses, flashes or whatever else they manufacture. That's a fact.
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current list of DSLR bestsellers at amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/3017941?ie=UTF8&ref_=pd_ts_e_nav

the recently announced cameras feature as follows:
#2: D7000 body only
#8: D3100 18-55
#13: D7000 18-105
#14: 60D body only
#32: 60D 18-135

we'll just have to live with the fact that we represent a fairly small market

and that means worse news may come: I wouldn't be surprised if D7000 had bitrate problems, because soccer moms want to take longer clips; and for that same reason, I wouldn't be surprised either if the next generation of canon DSLRs used a better encoder... and dropped the bitrate too much
 
You are really reaching on this one Norm. I don't think a $1100 body only Nikon DSLR is going to be the choice of many soccer moms.


NormanBates said:
current list of DSLR bestsellers at amazon:


I wouldn't be surprised if D7000 had bitrate problems, because soccer moms want to take longer clips; and for that same reason, I wouldn't be surprised either if the next generation of canon DSLRs used a better encoder... and dropped the bitrate too much
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just think of soccer moms with lots of money, or substitute for "average joe with a DSLR"

in any case: well, yes, but you get my point... (I hope)

another sobering thought: last weekend I was at a wedding; the photographer was carrying two 5Dmk2's; the videographer was using a small sensor video camera; what the... oh, forget it...
 
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Some thoughts:

One, it looks like Nikon has fixed many of the beefs with the D90 and indeed it will be a nice competitor for Canon... But prolly only for owners of Nikon glass. It almost certainly won't be a Canon killer for a variety of reasons, price being one of them.

It will have jello - all CMOS cams do. It will have compression issues - all DSLRs do. It will have consumer sound inputs - all DSLRS do. Yada. From what I see, it's not much different from a T2 when it's all averaged out - but it's $400 more.

It doesn't seem to threaten the Mark II market in any way from what I've seen, and it's not like the Mark III isn't coming down the pipe sooner or later.

All that said, the footage looks very pretty - very similar to the Canon line. If I owned a bunch of Nikon glass, I'd be pretty happy right now.

But it is strange that Nikon - a company with no high end video cameras - wouldn't make this a true Canon killer. It certainly seems possible, but in the end the D7000 seems more like a tie with the Canon line rather than a leap forward.
 
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