D5200 Anyone got it ???

QuickHitRecord said:
The D5200 is sitting directly on top of the GH2's hotshoe. Neither camera has a stabilized lens on it (there's a Nikkor 50mm AI-s on the D5200 and a Nikkor 28-50mm AI-s on the GH2), and yet there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the amount of camera shake here.

If you don't hold stock in my test, just look at MacGregor's:


His test suggests an impressive amount of DR. But even after his hand is no longer touching the camera, it's shaking. It's a 17-55mm lens.

This may not be a problem for some people. But for those of us who use shoulder rigs, sliders, dollies, car mounts, etc., the D5200 might not be a suitable camera.
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If the 5200 is on the hot shoe, it has a ton of slop in the mount and so is getting a different ride. Your test is great for many things, but not for skew.
 
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Well, I ran another test. This time, I put the D5200 on bottom. And guess what, you were right. The position was the problem: http://youtu.be/q5f58aeFYRU

Also, past the 24sec mark, I grabbed a stack of printer paper and tried to simulate a breeze.

I don't mind admitting that I was wrong. In this case, everybody wins -- there's still a chance that this is the camera I have been looking for.

It is way past my bedtime. Have a good night.
 
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No worries mate, gravity isn't something you normally think about until you're in free fall. We all know what it's like when you get a new camera and really want it to be great and then you get spooked by something. Now you can sleep easy.

I'm really excited about this camera, mac's test proved you can expose to the left which has been the achilles heal of DSLRs. It's early days yet but I think this one can play with the big boys.
 
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I'll get in touch with Atomos and see if they'll loan me a Ninja to test my codec lag theory.

Battery grips and high rod mounts are a no no for this camera, if you want it really stable the lens has to be as close to tripod, stabilizer, or shoulder mounting point as possible. Ain't gravity a *****.
 
squig said:
No worries mate, gravity isn't something you normally think about until you're in free fall. We all know what it's like when you get a new camera and really want it to be great and then you get spooked by something. Now you can sleep easy.
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+1!
 
I was flip flopping on this one for 3 weeks until I saw macgregors and the lens cap test. What I'd like to see (hint) is whether a ninja cleans up the blue sky posterization. I don't shoot a lot of blue skies myself (the light, it burns!) but it's a pretty standard test for banding.
 
good tests comrades, cheers!
For resolution's sake I like GH2 better, finer, nicer grain.
having Nokton optics F 0.95, helps in low light, the cameras are pretty close with their benefits, pros, cons
I keep both!

PS what a great time? First GH2 beats all bigger contenders in Zacuto 2012 test, now we have D5200,
time to make some films, no excuse "My camera is not right" anymore! :)
 
QuickHitRecord said:
The D5200 is sitting directly on top of the GH2's hotshoe. Neither camera has a stabilized lens on it (there's a Nikkor 50mm AI-s on the D5200 and a Nikkor 28-50mm AI-s on the GH2), and yet there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the amount of camera shake here.

If you don't hold stock in my test, just look at MacGregor's:


His test suggests an impressive amount of DR. But even after his hand is no longer touching the camera, it's shaking. It's a 17-55mm lens.

This may not be a problem for some people. But for those of us who use shoulder rigs, sliders, dollies, car mounts, etc., the D5200 might not be a suitable camera.
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What are you guys talking about? What does a tripod shaking have to do with rolling shutter artifacts? The camera is sitting on a $30 tripod. And it is moving so I can look for aliasing. Rolling shutter has nothing to do with this. And i am not saying there is no jello with this camera, but it is dumb for people to confuse these completely unrrlated issues.
 
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What are you guys talking about? What does a tripod shaking have to do with rolling shutter artifacts? The camera is sitting on a $30 tripod. And it is moving so I can look for aliasing. Rolling shutter has nothing to do with this. And i am not saying there is no jello with this camera, but it is dumb for people to confuse these completely unrrlated issues.
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What? you were testing? I thought it was just an earthquake.
 
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Here you go, skew test. D800 vs D5200 in a very fast pan. They both suck. XD

The D5200 is worse here.
 
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The D5200 is on a wider FoV in both cases, so I'd call it the loser in this test. The first test would make it really really bad, the second one, pretty acceptable. Are these shot with the same fps and general settings?

If you post the clips on your dropbox, I can have a go at trying to measure the sensor readout speed in ms for both cameras. I may or may not get a clean measure, when I've tried to do this in not-really-controlled settings (i.e. not with a machine designed to do this) I've sometimes come out with greatly varying numbers depending on which frame I use for the measurement (e.g. fast pan one way vs. slower pan the other way).
 
What are you guys talking about? What does a tripod shaking have to do with rolling shutter artifacts? The camera is sitting on a $30 tripod. And it is moving so I can look for aliasing. Rolling shutter has nothing to do with this. And i am not saying there is no jello with this camera, but it is dumb for people to confuse these completely unrrlated issues.
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My point exactly! That was tripod shake, not jello or rolling shutter. If people wanted to see what jello looked like on a Nikon, they only need to pick up a D90. The d5100 has no jello and you think that Nikon would be dumb enough to allow it on the D5200 or the upcoming D7100? I don't think so! So far so good.Thanks Macgregor for your tests!
 
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