D5200 Anyone got it ???

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ChipThome

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I see the D5200 is in stock and shipping, just wondering if anyone here got it yet and what footage looks like from it ???

Also wondering for those that do have one, if you have a GH series Panny, how do the two match up together ???
 
I don't think anyone has been paying any attention to it but I've been checking it out and it looks really interesting, it could be a real sleeper.

It looks like they've put in a strong OLPF and the resolution and DR look really good. According to the manual it has clean HDMI out. The only issue I've heard is the rolling shutter isn't great.

I might get one next week and see how it stacks up against the MKIII. The codec doesn't look great so I'm going to see if I can get it to work with a hyperdeck shuttle or a ninja. The Toshiba sensor doesn't appear to have FPN. Custom picture profiles can be created in the Nikon editor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkTr05lB4M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOatWdOYYT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xnbc7UJPQ
 
I downloaded the pdf user guide but couldn't find a clear confirmation of clean HDMI-out (probably just me). If you get one, squig, I'd be very interested to know if it bucks the trend of lower cost DSLRs and does indeed have clean HDMI output - hopefully, unlike the D600, without a frame around it. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to use my manual AI-S Nikon primes without an external light meter.
 
I was expecting the usual aliasing/moire issues, but those samples look pretty clean in that regard. The price of course is a very slow sensor readout and therefore some really awful rolling shutter issues. Not much more to learn from the clips, though, since all the other issues (nasty shadow noise) can be there because of youtube.
 
squig..... those look pretty decent so far. I am hoping to finally find something where the distant shadows don't end up with a glop of mud right smack in the middle of them. Up and down the Panasonic lineup, everything seems to have that problem.

What else uses a Toshiba sensor ??? That's a new name to me.
 
Looks interesting and I might actually get one depending on how it deals with some other issues. Currently rocking the T2I but for the price tag it might be worth upgrading to as I actually use all nikon glass (well 2 canon mount lenses but i could just sell and buy nikon versions and I'd be fine.) Hoping it does well because it seems to be a better camera on the photography side and would love to be able to use it for video as well! How do you all think it would compare to the T2I, and their two codecs?
 
The Toshiba sensor itself looks to be excellent and got 1st place among DX/APS C sized sensors from DXO Mark (11th overall) Nikon sensors have been great for a while though, so hopefully they just keep improving on how the video is implemented. Much improved aliasing and moire is a great start, and to me that's better than a bit worse rolling shutter performance. If you watch Blooms review of the $12,000 dollar 1DC...the rolling shutter is pretty pronounced on that camera too.
I wish Nikon just had at least one single dedicated voice to reviewing the video on their cameras. Then we could see what they can really do. What we have now is a bunch of photo reviewers who turn the camera on, shoot 2 minutes in some random mode and go "meh"...Canon is better. I know that's Nikons fault as much as anybody, but now that they seem to be turning a corner, I'd like to see some real reviews.
 
I just bought one. Definitely the best budget DSLR this side of the GH2/GH3 and no moire or aliasing issues in 1080p like the D600 or D800. Nice clean codec for the price and good smooth gradation. Video feed looks like JPEG stills. HDMI is indeed clean and appears to be uncompressed. There's some other HDMI related bonuses I will write about in my full review, and it is a world-cam so PAL / NTSC switchable. The 720/60p suffers from aliasing though (like D800) and rolling shutter not the best but appears to be worse on the live view display than it is in the final recording.
 
Realized it comes in red, if I get one j might debating on the cheesy plastic look red body just to joke around about how I'm shooting with a red camera... Still waiting for some reviews
 
Gotta admit i'm intrigued by the D5200. I was seriously thinking of a D600, but this really has me thinking of going with the D5200. Nikon is finally getting things going. I do think over time that we'll see even better efforts from Nikon.
 
ReelFilmGeek said:
Realized it comes in red, if I get one j might debating on the cheesy plastic look red body just to joke around about how I'm shooting with a red camera... Still waiting for some reviews
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I actually like the colors for being more approachable in docu work. Pro gear tends to look so serious it intimidates people. Pull out a red or brown tiny slr and they will be a bit more at ease.

As long as jello isn't any worse than the average first gen dslr, then this could be a real interesting tool.
 
I'm still undecided. The rolling shutter is scaring me but the image does look very nice so it's a bit 2 steps forward 1 step back. Andrew do you have a GH3 to run some ISO noise and rolling shutter comparisons?

Techradar have done some DR and SNR tests http://www.techradar.com/au/reviews...s/nikon-d5200-1110231/review/5#articleContent

I need a to find a replacement for the 5D MKIII, the fixed pattern noise is really annoying me and makes the camera totally useless for low key shooting. If I can't find a suitable DSLR I'll get an FS100 even though I hate everything about it bar the IQ.
 
I expected aliasing/moire, and it's not there, so now I'm suspecting really really bad rolling shutter issues. When your sensor-readout is not as fast as you'd like it to be, you have two ways forward: you can line-skip, which cuts rolling shutter by 2x or 3x, or you can go on and read the whole sensor. From the footage I've seen, it seems that this sensor is faster than the old ones, but not quite 2x or 3x faster, so they went for no line-skip and increased jello.
This could be great for static shots on a tripod (an establishing shot of a house and some landscape), and horrible if you need lots of camera movement. Basically a GH2 with better DR and a lesser codec.
 
The codec isn't a major issue with the clean HDMI out.

I've been doing some peeping and the rolling shutter I've seen doesn't look any worse than the BMCC handheld stuff I've seen. I think both cams are in the 5D MKII - D90 (25ms+) rolling shutter range which isn't great but properly stabilized is doable. THe D90 rolling shutter was about as much as I could tolerate for any kind of narrative work. Not sure I want to go back to D90 jello but if it isn't any worse and it can handle itself really well in low light then it could be an option.

I'm trying to hold out till NAB with the D7000, 7D, and FS100 all due for replacement but the D5200 and GH3 are very tempting new toys.
 
Samuel H said:
I expected aliasing/moire, and it's not there, so now I'm suspecting really really bad rolling shutter issues. When your sensor-readout is not as fast as you'd like it to be, you have two ways forward: you can line-skip, which cuts rolling shutter by 2x or 3x, or you can go on and read the whole sensor. From the footage I've seen, it seems that this sensor is faster than the old ones, but not quite 2x or 3x faster, so they went for no line-skip and increased jello.
This could be great for static shots on a tripod (an establishing shot of a house and some landscape), and horrible if you need lots of camera movement. Basically a GH2 with better DR and a lesser codec.
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Any samples of that? I don't see more jello than any other DSLR in the posted videos.
 
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