D5200 Anyone got it ???

I bought the D5200. Here's a quick comparison to my GH2:


It's got a lot of things going for it, but that jello isn't going to work for me. It looks like I'll be sending it back to B&H, unfortunately.
 
QuickHitRecord said:
I bought the D5200. Here's a quick comparison to my GH2:


It's got a lot of things going for it, but that jello isn't going to work for me. It looks like I'll be sending it back to B&H, unfortunately.
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The D5200 is clearly being bounced around much more than the GH2, and you're blaming the jello?
 
AdvanTech said:
The D5200 is clearly being bounced around much more than the GH2, and you're blaming the jello?
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The D5200 is sitting directly on top of the GH2's hotshoe. Neither camera has a stabilized lens on it (there's a Nikkor 50mm AI-s on the D5200 and a Nikkor 28-50mm AI-s on the GH2), and yet there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the amount of camera shake here.

If you don't hold stock in my test, just look at MacGregor's:


His test suggests an impressive amount of DR. But even after his hand is no longer touching the camera, it's shaking. It's a 17-55mm lens.

This may not be a problem for some people. But for those of us who use shoulder rigs, sliders, dollies, car mounts, etc., the D5200 might not be a suitable camera.
 
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I'll be sticking it on my rig and running around like a crazed fanboy as soon as it gets here. It is very light so it will need a lot of weight on the rig to keep it stable. How is it mounted to the hotshoe? mac wasn't testing for stability, he was messing with the controls to test the latitude. It's always a trade off with DSLRs, in this case it's DR over jello. Jello can be controlled but you can't get any more DR out of a GH2.
 
John Caballero said:
Well, the D5200 might need more stabilizing and need the VR on Nikon lenses to work better. That is the reason VR is made for. But we won't know until it is tried.
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True. For those who own (or can afford) VR-enabled AF-S lenses, this may be the best game in town.

I was hoping that my Duclos Cine-modded AI-s lenses would play nice with this camera. But it isn't a good match, at least for my purposes.

I am not trying to deter anyone from buying this camera (I stand nothing to gain from that), I'm just offering some information from first-hand experience that may save some people the hassle of buying this camera and then having to return it.
 
John Caballero said:
Well, the D5200 might need more stabilizing and need the VR on Nikon lenses to work better. That is the reason VR is made for. But we won't know until it is tried.
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The Nikon VR lenses are too slow for shallow filmic DOF on an S35 sensor but Nikon does have a patent for an f/2.8 wide zoom. If you're running around like a madman though f/5.6 would probably be a good idea. Damn maybe I will need that VR lens after all.

All cool quickhit, we appreciate it. Maybe you should swap it for the kit with the 17-55mm VR. In hindsight I think I should have got the kit for steadicam shots.
 
I just did a quick test on my D5100 and it shows no jello with the VR on. I sincerely doubt that Nikon went backwards on the jello issue with the D5200. Something is off with the tests on the D5200 shown here. And I venture to say is precisely the lens VR. But I won't now until I try it myself.
 
Also I've seen some handheld that didn't look anywhere near as bad so I'm thinking there maybe something else going on here. Have you got every function you can find turned off?
 
I was hoping that my Duclos Cine-modded AI-s lenses would play nice with this camera. But it isn't a good match, at least for my purposes.
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Yes, I would think those might give you a bit of trouble. I think I read or heard in one of the reviews that the D7100 was going to work better with those? But I am not sure. Thanks for the test!
 
squig said:
Also I've seen some handheld that didn't look anywhere near as bad so I'm thinking there maybe something else going on here. Have you got every function you can find turned off?
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I have all of the exposure compensation functions turned off. Anything that can be set to manual is set to manual. I didn't see anything in the menu that would have influence over jello. But if there is, I'd love to know about it!
 
John Caballero said:
I just did a quick test on my D5100 and it shows no jello with the VR on. I sincerely doubt that Nikon went backwards on the jello issue with the D5200. ...
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But every test seems to point to that they did. I think the test above is extreme and that the camera is getting knocked around a bit. But every test I've seen has shown and said that jello has gotten worse. But the image has gotten better. I guess it takes more time to read the entire sensor than it does to line skip.
 
John we're pretty sure it does have more jello than most of the current crop of DSLRs but I don't think it's D90 bad, but having said that we used to get stable shots with the D90 with a bit of effort.

Quickhit do you have a photo tripod with a centre shaft?
 
When I had the D5200 in my hands briefly at B&H today the first thing I checked was for jello on Live View and did not see much if any. I didn't bring an SD card with me. I had to check in my bag with the camera at the entrance of the store and did't feel like taking the card out because I had decided that now I was waiting on the D7100! I might go back in couple of days and film something to check the jello issue!
 
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