Covid-19 (Novel Coronavirus) - Effects on the production industry

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From the London Times - 5 days ago - ... by observing the advice to wash their hands and to cough and sneeze into their elbow.
From the UK Telegraph - Feb 11, 2020 - Throughout this outbreak experts have cautioned people to wash their hands frequently and to cough and sneeze into their elbow.

Ok, ok, I get obsessed.
 
Paul F said:
From the London Times - 5 days ago - ... by observing the advice to wash their hands and to cough and sneeze into their elbow.
From the UK Telegraph - Feb 11, 2020 - Throughout this outbreak experts have cautioned people to wash their hands frequently and to cough and sneeze into their elbow.

Ok, ok, I get obsessed.
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Given the age of most of those in danger from the virus, if there is a pandemic The Telegraph will lose 90% of their readership.
 
Batutta said:
I'd avoid Vegas altogether. A man tested positive in Canada who just returned from Vegas. I'd say next to a cruise ship, Vegas is probably the best environment possible for propagating a virus -- hundreds of thousands of people flying in and out from all over the world, all those crowds bumping up against each other, all touching the same games and machines, the buffets, the conference mingling, the partying, the prostitution. Forget about it!
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I wouldn't worry about the virus leaving Vegas. Everyone knows what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
 
So, more cases pop up almost everywhere with people returning from cruises and/or foreign trips.

Hard liquor is still widely availaible but the sanitary chemicals seem to be in short supply in a lot of places.

PS. Eric, the virus may stay in Vegas but so will the infected body ... one hopes, not permanently.
 
That cruise ship off NoCal that will be allowed to dock in Oakland tomorrow has 19 crew members (out of ~ 1,300) and 2 passengers (our of ~ 2,200) testing positive. By comparison, when Norovirus broke out on several previous trips by different companies, there were hundreds of cases per trip. Overall, the Norovirus has a 2/10th of 1% infection rate for the passengers, pretty close to the Covid-19 on this particular boat.
 
NorBro said:
I think it's time to take a break with all the "statistics".

Not sure anyone truly knows what the numbers really are.
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What part of this news item is not clear?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ship-test-positive-coronavirus-pence-n1151936

"The California Air National Guard had delivered 46 tests to the Grand Princess, which has been offshore since Wednesday.
Of the 46 passengers tested, Pence said 21 people, 19 employees and two passengers, had tested positive.
Twenty-four tested negative, and one was inconclusive, Pence said."
 
Cary Knoop said:
No, only 46 people were actually tested. So that's 21 out of 46!
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So, here's your choice because the article author gets an award for poor journalism - either there were only 46 test kits or there were only 46 people complaining of possible CoVid-19 symptoms. I tend to go with the latter because, with only two passengers testing positive, it's likely that very few others decided to make a trip to the doctor. YMMV.
 
Cary Knoop said:
What part of this news item is not clear?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ship-test-positive-coronavirus-pence-n1151936

"The California Air National Guard had delivered 46 tests to the Grand Princess, which has been offshore since Wednesday.
Of the 46 passengers tested, Pence said 21 people, 19 employees and two passengers, had tested positive.
Twenty-four tested negative, and one was inconclusive, Pence said."
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The comment wasn't specifically to you; just in general.

But based on your clear reply, let me ask you this; are you using your brain to really evaluate what you're saying, thinking?

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When you read an article that provides some numbers, how do you know they are true? Are you personally doing the testing too?

Or are you just trusting decision-makers to tell the truth?

Or do you have some spiritual insight? Because if you have some spiritual insight then you must know the numbers to be accurate.

But if you don't then you're just trusting another human being who's exchanging information. Is that correct?
 
NorBro said:
The comment wasn't specifically to you; just in general.

But based on your clear reply, let me ask you this; are you using your brain to really evaluate what you're saying, thinking?

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When you read an article that provides some numbers, how do you know they are true? Are you personally doing the testing too?

Or are you just trusting decision-makers to tell the truth?

Or do you have some spiritual insight? Because if you have some spiritual insight then you must know the numbers to be accurate.

But if you don't then you're just trusting another human being who's exchanging information. Is that correct?
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Clearly he was using the Internet as a source. I bet you couldn't even post a source here citing the Internet as ever being wrong without using the Internet to do so.
 
In my opinion, I do not think any individual or organization truly knows the real numbers.

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Think about the big picture, and the significant task of actually trying to contain a world-wide virus.

Countries/people whom would consider quarantining everyone may have the right idea because it's impossible to truly know who is infected unless you close your borders and test your entire population. Get the sick healthy ($$$), and then test everyone again.

But then how do you know if you've tested everyone? How are you actually supposed to test every person in your country? What if sick people hide? And then what about other countries? Will they do the same? Are you supposed to keep your borders closed until there's an available cure? And what about the virus living on surfaces longer than expected after mutating and evolving?

When's the last time any of us have lived during something like this?

The reality of containment is daunting, maybe impossible. Some think it's too late, and they may be right.

[The above is obviously the worst case scenario for an exceedingly dangerous illness, but any serious viral threat to living organisms can very well be a reality if this gets out of hand.]

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There is also the concept of protecting sensitive information - at least for the foreseeable future.

Let's say there was a hypothetical ship that tested 5000 people and all 5000 have the virus.

How do you think people would handle that news?

We should all have the right to know, and some people who would know would feel a responsibility to tell us, but this kind of information is a catalyst for a societal breakdown.

"Damned if you do, damned if you don't."
 
My only statistics are personal and anecdotal, not internet-based.
Just flew Miami to NYC for 3 day shoot on Delta, plane was 60% full on a very busy route.
The 3 of us each had a row to ourselves.

Curbside check in had one person in front of us.
TSA had 3 people in the bag X ray line ahead of us.

Stayed in a hotel on the Little Italy/Chinatown border, never saw so many masks in my life.
And never washed my hands so much in my life.
Never saw so few people (or cars) on the street.
Ubers came super quick and travel times were
fastest ever.
Even the drive all the way up to Harlem was fast.

Coughed and sneezed inside my shirt collar with my elbow over that. Pulled my long sleeves over my hands for every door, elevator button and object.
Was surprised how immediately it became habit.

Flight home was 70% full.
Wiped my shoes down with alcohol, had an IPA.
Admittedly feel a little strange every time I cough or sneeze...

But hey, the shoot went very well!!!
 
I just lost another shoot thanks to this sodding virus. It's now cost me over £10,000 and we're still in the early days of the pandemic. Sometimes being freelance just sucks.

Anyone who still thinks this is just the flu is a colossal and very dangerous idiot.
 
Between Covid-19 and the oil markets recent crash our economy down here in Texas will get a little tight. Nearly had a client cancel a shoot in Dallas due to Covid, but since this shoot is to steer their brand away from the 60 plus crowd towards the younger set I think we don't have too much to worry about (as long as everyone washes their hands on set).
 
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Washing your hands only makes sense if you wash your hands and don't touch anything else (obviously not your orifices), or only disinfected surfaces.

Because if you wash your hands and then touch your tripod handle again that has the virus then it's on your hands again.

You'd have to continuously wipe every single surface you come in contact with. Exhausting and maybe impossible depending on your life.

If one person has it on his or her hands and leaves the room and touches a bunch of public handles and then other people in the building touch those handles then it's all over the place. You'd have to live in a bubble to keep away (which I guess is why that saying exists).

Honestly, it's a miracle humans have made it this far. Such beautiful and complex immune systems, but what a stark reminder that we share this planet.
 
I work (ed) on quite a few Activision E Sports shows in camera department, across the board they are canceling any international traveling work, I know others in the same situation. I picked up work on popular talent competition show filmed with large live audience and now I waiting for these shows to get called off also.

What’s interesting is that TV is gonna be BIG necessity as millions of people are stuck home all day. I think biggest canceled work will be things with live audience or public event.
 
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