Contest Delivery Requirements

THX-1138 said:
I guess I thought I had this thing licked.

In FCP when making a mpeg2 file you have two choices Target Bitrate and Max Bitrate when I put Target Bitrate to 8 my file jumps to around 384mb.

Do i just crank that down until I hit 250mb - ish?

Again, I have never dome this before. I usually use Comprossor to make my mpeg 2 files and a seperate audio file which I assemble in DVD Studio Pro.

Any FCP people out there who can set me strait?

Kip
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If you're doing VBR, your target bitrate needs to be set at 8mbits and your max needs to be at 9.8mbits, and if you can set your minimum then keep that anywhere from 0.15mbits to 2mbits. If you want to avoid the hassle all together, just do CBR at 8mbits. 384mb actually sounds about right.
 
I have Pinnacle Studio 10 ..This doesn't give me any option for Bitrate . It does give the option of both MPEG 2'S.... Re- DVD or normal MPEG2 .
Nero tells me it runs between 6>8 mbs and that is in VBR .

I think I really need Vegas 6 in the Nr future.
Ian
 
So if 6 min. files are coming in at 380ish MB ... Jarred, do you want us to lower the bit rate, therefore lowering the quality, or do is this size of file okay for uploading/submission?

If you look back a page, and are still familiar with the Q I've got for you in Vegas (DVD vs. MPEG2 option) for rendering, I'd look forward to that too. Or anyone else who uses Vegas, for that matter.
 
yes sorry the 250mb size was a projection for the under 5 minutes of zomiefest.. since there is an extra minute 350mb is fine.

Dont worry about broadcast safe etc.

Evision, did you figure out your vegas problem?
 
Oh I'm have a SERIOUS problem ... my system's choking on al the FX we're trying to do, and it ain't working. But this isn't the place for that, so I'll post it in the Vegas forum.

My Q for you, Jarred, was if you knew in the Vegas MPEG2 render options (when clicking on CUSTOM), if we should choose DVD or MPEG2 in the drop down box. I wouldn't think there was a difference, but the help menu makes it sounds like one version of MPEG2 is more DVD compatible, while the other is more generic MPEG for web, etc.

Thoughts?

Oh, and just to clarify, you're going to do a TV SAFE filter over everything when applying to the DVD? So we'll just focus for the web?
 
Jarred Land said:
yes sorry the 250mb size was a projection for the under 5 minutes of zomiefest.. since there is an extra minute 350mb is fine.

Dont worry about broadcast safe etc.
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Cool, thanks! Rendering out what could very well be my completed submission! :thumbsup:
 
Norm, I know that in the program I use for compression, Sorenson Squeeze, the DVD default is not correct if you want a progressive 16:9 file. I had to create a custom setting for an MPEG2.
 
briceman said:
Cool, thanks! Rendering out what could very well be my completed submission! :thumbsup:
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Same here Briceman!

I do have a question, and call it another newbie one...

When I view the mpeg-2 on my computer (through quicktime) I see horizontal banding during lots of motion. Normal?

Also, my colors look great on the TV we're using to monitor (and hasn't been a problem compared to other TVs in the past), but on the computer (as mpeg-2), not so much... a little washed out (not quite as contrasty as it should be). Is this typical of the mpeg-2 format viewed on a computer screen, or do you guys do color correction different for internet viewing or what? I know it sounds like a stupid question, but this is the FIRST time we're putting a movie on the net... every other project has been TV-viewed only.

Thanks!
 
Jarred Land said:
brice, try and make your mpeg a 24p file.. it sounds like you are doing a 60i mpeg2.
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I think I am. My setting are correct in Sorenson. Rendering it out progressive, not lower field, etc. I think I'm doing it correctly. :undecided
 
Here are my settings:

Video Output: MPEG2
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Field Encoding: Progressive
Data Rate: 8000 kbs.
Method: Constant Bit Rate
Format: NTSC
I Frame Rate: 6 Frames
 
Question:

Since we're uploading the actual DVD file now, are we including our normal full credits even if the film is 6 min without them? You guys just gonna chop 'em off for the download version, or what?

Also, what do you think about letting people who have been on the board for more than a year vote? I've been on this board nearly 2 years AND I'm submitting a film but I can't vote because of my measley 50 posts. Dang it, that just ain't right...
 
Kaz, the 100 vote limit does have a good reason. Not to direct this at you, but someone could be on the board for 3-4 years, and only have 10 posts vs. someone else who's only been on the board for 4-5 months but has 500 posts. Granted, while there could be many posts out of that 500 that are just chit-chat, of the two members, who do you think has instilled more into the community? So it's not about length of time, so much as it is contributions.

But, VERY good question on the DVD files ... as I kind of thought that the DVD might have members' long cuts of their films, if they wanted. Then again, if someone WON, and their long cut actually would have brought the film down, then that wouldn't make sense to have it on the DVD when the it's supposed to be a compilation of the festival submissions ...

... so I think I just answered my own question ... DVD will likely be the festival submissions only. Will BTS material still be submitted later?
 
some confusing stuff here!!!!

some confusing stuff here!!!!

Let me see if I understood the uploading process, January 31th is not the real dead line for we will be only uploading our movies someday after it. Then January 31th is only a date for you to know when your movie should be finished. Please, someone aswer that for me!!! As English is not my mother tongue I sometimes have the feeling I am not understanding the rules of the festival. Thanks.
 
ok.. FTP server is ready to start accepting the entries. someone PM me if your ready to test the upload process.

Filenames should be Title-Username-Realname.mpg

So for example Scidelicious-DVXusername-Joeblow.mpg


There will be a page with the FTP info on the 31st where you agree to the rules then get the FTP upload info.

All uploads gotta be 6minutes. If you have an extended version with credits you would like to have for the DVD, upload it as Scidelicious-DVXusername-Joeblow-DVD.mpg so i know that you want that one on the DVD.


Remember.. mpg files should be 24p anamorphic.
 
oh and as for the deadline. Jan 31st is a soft deadline. The FTP will be open for a few days until everyone gets thier file downloaded. Im not a nazi and dont do the "if its not in by 12:01am your DQ'd". This is a festival for the community by the community so things are pretty loose... we wont hate you if your a day late.
 
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