I pulled the trigger right after the price drop and have not regretted it. Wanted a b-cam for my C100 mk1 and it seems to be fitting the bill nicely. I've mainly used it when I need a break from carrying around my C100 for several hours during events, getting random interviews with my handheld wireless mic, and some occasional slo-mo footage. I really like the size and feel for the most part. I tend to mostly shoot wide with it in low light because it stops down fairly quickly when zooming. Looking forward to trying it outdoors and grading some c-log.
Canon XC10 new price point makes it a great purchase
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Hearnia
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In a lot of situations you can set the aperture at F4 and treat it like a 24-70 F4 zoom. That way you don't have varying exposure on zoom.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
i played with a xc10 at b&h the other afternoon.
i liked the menus.
i liked the image.
i liked the lens.
the b&h display setting is pretty well lit.
that was when i realized that the camera had the gain really pumped up, maybe it was 3200.
i lowered the db to zero.
now the zoomed in image was too dark to be useful.
i did not have an opportunity to shoot some 3200 footage and look at it on a big screen.
i do image for indoor interviews, this camera is going to need a far amount of light.
this shouldn't be a deal-breaker or even big news.
i'm just saying that an indoor shooter is going to need LIGHT.
ymmv
be well.
rob
smalltalk.productions
i liked the menus.
i liked the image.
i liked the lens.
the b&h display setting is pretty well lit.
that was when i realized that the camera had the gain really pumped up, maybe it was 3200.
i lowered the db to zero.
now the zoomed in image was too dark to be useful.
i did not have an opportunity to shoot some 3200 footage and look at it on a big screen.
i do image for indoor interviews, this camera is going to need a far amount of light.
this shouldn't be a deal-breaker or even big news.
i'm just saying that an indoor shooter is going to need LIGHT.
ymmv
be well.
rob
smalltalk.productions
Lobbamobba
Well-known member
Was the ND on?
nope.
now, i'm not saying anything negative about the xc10.
if it were just a wee bit cheaper, i would seriously consider it or the sony rx10mk2.
i was surprised by how much light it needed while indoors.
(now it was a rainy, rotten, dark, dank afternoon so any ambient light was not available)
be well.
rob
smalltalk.productions
Lobbamobba
Well-known member
Just curious. I have left the ND on lots of times 
AndreeOnline
Veteran
I get the feeling you were looking at the LCD? Depending on setting you can get really fooled into thinking your under exposed.
You need to look at the actual footage on a computer.
It's not like if the scene needs an exposure of f4 1/50 ISO500 with a normal camera, the XC10 will need f4 1/50 ISO3200. A given exposure value is what it is.
I guess I don't quite understand what you mean. But you're right that zoomed in, f5.6 is what you get. And sometimes that can be too dark. Then you would typically use a higher ISO.
You need to look at the actual footage on a computer.
It's not like if the scene needs an exposure of f4 1/50 ISO500 with a normal camera, the XC10 will need f4 1/50 ISO3200. A given exposure value is what it is.
I guess I don't quite understand what you mean. But you're right that zoomed in, f5.6 is what you get. And sometimes that can be too dark. Then you would typically use a higher ISO.
roxics
Veteran
This is true. I had a similar problem when first getting the C100. Although mine was reversed, I thought the footage looked right in the LCD but was overexposed once on the computer.
I don't know how much this camera is like the C100, but that has a brighter mode you can turn on for the LCD screen, for better viewing in daylight.
Hi movingim - I still feel the same way, the XC10 4k image is not as sharp as the C100 HD, but it mixes quite well. The XC10 C-log footage is also more neutral (or less yellow) than C100 mark I, even with the same white balance. Here's a recent video with XC10 footage at 00:17: https://vimeo.com/156776888
After a month of use I ended up selling our FS5 (and RX10 II) for business reasons, and am continuing to use our three C100s along with the XC10. All great cams for various projects, just had to focus on what our primary jobs were going to be this year, which ended up being in-person training for beginner to intermediate journalists who tend to pick up on Canon's ease of use quicker than Sony's.
Cheers,
Slavik
After a month of use I ended up selling our FS5 (and RX10 II) for business reasons, and am continuing to use our three C100s along with the XC10. All great cams for various projects, just had to focus on what our primary jobs were going to be this year, which ended up being in-person training for beginner to intermediate journalists who tend to pick up on Canon's ease of use quicker than Sony's.
Cheers,
Slavik
Der filmer
New member
Wildlife at dusk - and the XC10 is out of the game. At the Tele end the fixed lens is definetly too slow at 5.6 - and I wouldn't go over ISO 4000 with the 1" sensor.