Canon R5 Announced with 8k

Run&Gun said:
The way it reads to me, the info display will still say your recording framerate and rez, but what the camera is actually doing in standby will actually not be the same FR/Rez. For example(just making this up, IDK all the FR/Rez combos) you’re recording 4K/120P, but when in standby the camera actually drops to say 1080/30P, but the display still indicates 4K/120, because that’s what it will record when you come out of standby. Or is this not the case?
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That's most likely the case; that's how it works in all kinds of electronics, software. But it initially sounded to me like the actual settings would change.

The question I have is how effective is it versus putting the camera in 1080p, and will that mode ever shut off after the camera starts to overheat.

(I don't know.)
 
Tom Roper said:
R5 is the MGB with Lucas electrics. The headlamps had 3 settings, off, dim and flicker.
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LOL

From a marketing stand point it makes sense. This is Canon answer to Sony A7 and FF mirrorless market that they've been absent from. The 8k differentiates from the A7siii while heat/time limits prevents it from undercutting their higher end cinema cameras. The R5 looks to be first a photography camera that also offers video. This I believe has always been their approach to separate their cameras into photo/video and pro video. The heat issue is part a limitation of the form factor but could have been reduced if Canon wanted to. I'm sure they've left room for improvement that they can sell in a few years as the R5 Mark II
 
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DLD said:
And, yes, it was a slide rule and an abacus (technically speaking, the Germans had the first computer by 1942 but they only built several units).
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No, they didn't. The British already had computers working for the Post Office in the 1930's and that's not to mention mechanical computers in the 19th century. Sorry, but you are just plain wrong.
 
Liam Hall said:
Yup, and it will be earning me money from next week.
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That is awesome!

A tool is a tool. Not everything is a hammer. It is more about why you purchase and how you intend to use it. I can think of few duos that look as appealing as the C3005/5002 and a R5. I just love the idea of having a perfect documentary camera and then being able to do 8K scenics. Or jump it over to 4K for always with you type of video camera... which can make or break some docos.

When I see guys like you and Pure, it is about getting the right tool. And you guys know exactly what can and will work for your job. Can get noisy and crowded on the internet with opinions about "the perfect camera", but for a working pro, there are different ways of approaching things. I NEVER would have though in 2020 we would have a little 8K raw camera for $5K that can just slip into the camera bag. Insane. Perfect? No. Perfect for somethings, yeah!

The R5 won't be the A-cam everyone wanted, but it is the B-cam of science fiction. haha. Well, at least for those of use that were working before 2015.

Glad you are able to make this camera work. Definitely opens up some interesting possibilities, and give IMAX level resolution for short bursts to any documentary, which is amazing.
 
Canon statement: "Orders of the EOS R5 are scheduled to be delivered as initially stated at launch. The first set of cameras shipped from our warehouses this week. We eagerly await the content that will be produced by talented creatives using this camera to be shared with the world."

Image of the first delivery to NJ:
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return of investment

return of investment

Liam Hall said:
Yup, and it will be earning me money from next week.
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mine started returning the investment today :) Real dirty dusty work

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I was in the field for about 1.5hrs at about 37°C. The camera was in the very hot car before.
My iPad case melted on the dashbord. I was shooting 4K25 HQ and 4K50 HQ. 28 clips from 30sec to 3mins,
125GB in total. The only thing that overheated was I myself. The CFexpress card was very hot when I out it out.
I just checked some files mostly for focus. I really like what I see. 19hrs on the feet. Time for some sleep.
 
May be that Canon is sending a message ... one they have articulated for years.

Small cameras have limitations that can be a limitation but still allow access to great capture of video
respecting their limitations.

Bottom line ... perhaps ... you want 8K ... buy a Monstro ... or deal with the time constraints of the Canon.

No one is forcing you to commit to this workflow.

Expectations and denial allow us to assume that all will be without sacrifice ... obviously that is not the case.

I do not expect a recall ... and assume that Canon in time will sell every R camera they produce ... stills more than
video but most will find a way to incorporate these into their workflow.

When a C200b is the same price as the R5 ... not a difficult choice ...
 
If the cfast card was very hot. I wonder if a mod to remove the door to the card slot would improve time. But it looks like 28 clips from 30 seconds to 3 minutes in 4k HQ was no issue. then I have no issue.
 
Clermond said:
mine started returning the investment today :) Real dirty dusty work

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I was in the field for about 1.5hrs at about 37°C. The camera was in the very hot car before.
My iPad case melted on the dashbord. I was shooting 4K25 HQ and 4K50 HQ. 28 clips from 30sec to 3mins,
125GB in total. The only thing that overheated was I myself. The CFexpress card was very hot when I out it out.
I just checked some files mostly for focus. I really like what I see. 19hrs on the feet. Time for some sleep.
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Fantastic. Just going for it! Awesome! Well deserved rest.
 
Clermond said:
mine started returning the investment today :) Real dirty dusty work

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I was in the field for about 1.5hrs at about 37°C. The camera was in the very hot car before.
My iPad case melted on the dashbord. I was shooting 4K25 HQ and 4K50 HQ. 28 clips from 30sec to 3mins,
125GB in total. The only thing that overheated was I myself. The CFexpress card was very hot when I out it out.
I just checked some files mostly for focus. I really like what I see. 19hrs on the feet. Time for some sleep.
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That’s great. Haters are going to hate. The rest of us just crack on.
 
James0b57 said:
That is awesome!

A tool is a tool. Not everything is a hammer. It is more about why you purchase and how you intend to use it. I can think of few duos that look as appealing as the C3005/5002 and a R5. I just love the idea of having a perfect documentary camera and then being able to do 8K scenics. Or jump it over to 4K for always with you type of video camera... which can make or break some docos.

When I see guys like you and Pure, it is about getting the right tool. And you guys know exactly what can and will work for your job. Can get noisy and crowded on the internet with opinions about "the perfect camera", but for a working pro, there are different ways of approaching things. I NEVER would have though in 2020 we would have a little 8K raw camera for $5K that can just slip into the camera bag. Insane. Perfect? No. Perfect for somethings, yeah!

The R5 won't be the A-cam everyone wanted, but it is the B-cam of science fiction. haha. Well, at least for those of use that were working before 2015.

Glad you are able to make this camera work. Definitely opens up some interesting possibilities, and give IMAX level resolution for short bursts to any documentary, which is amazing.
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Exactly. It’s not an A cam, and that is what many people are struggling with.
 
You know…for a guy who talks a lot about cameras, I think it’s been 7 months since I actually used one, ha.

Here are some R5 clips from my continued testing.

I wish I was able to use better glass, but that’s all that is available until next week.

24-105mm f/4-7.1, all static shots on a basic light stand (I don’t own a tripod anymore). Any camera movements are accomplished via key-framing in post. (No IBIS today, but it is a treat. I used it all day yesterday but the salt water air on the shore where I filmed diffused my lens rendering the footage essentially useless.)

4K HQ 24p and cropped APS-C 4K/60p (5.1K oversample).

The second video is HDR-PQ, ungraded. Only 4K HQ 24p here. A delight to use. How’s it look on your screen?

Filled the 128GB card before the camera overheated. Nothing conclusive. About an hour of b-roll. Never went into the 8K mode.

My biggest annoyance with this camera that drives me absolutely insane (it’s also how it is on the other Canons) is that when you have AF paused and go into the menu for any reason, it un-pauses itself when you exit, so you have to pay attention. I wish the AF boxes were green when AF is ON (they are only green when you use the shutter to confirm focus) and red when it’s paused or OFF (they are only red when you use the shutter to confirm focus and it fails). The gray and light gray to distinguish the two is not how it should be.


 
Images look lovely but they can't label it as an 8K model with such limitations. Rumors are of a recall. Canon needs to save face.
 
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