Canon R5 Announced with 8k

A7sIII looks amazing for video, not so much for stills. There's no perfect hybrid camera but what incredible kit we have these days. It does make me laugh when I see people complain the Sony doesn't shoot 8K and others moaning you can only shoot 20 minutes of 8K on the Canon.
 
Liam Hall said:
A7sIII looks amazing for video, not so much for stills. There's no perfect hybrid camera but what incredible kit we have these days. It does make me laugh when I see people complain the Sony doesn't shoot 8K and others moaning you can only shoot 20 minutes of 8K on the Canon.
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Some think the A7iv will be the hybrid winner. I'm not so sure they can undercut the A7SIII. But I could see it being limited to 4k60p and no 6k recording and hybrid shooters going nuts for it
 
I'm camera agnostic. I'm speaking for myself not trying to join the Sony vs canon war . I'm seeing better rolling shutter on the R5 although don't know what mode it was in. Better IBIS on the R5. Oversampled 4K on the R5. 45mpix on the r5. Both in the same ballpark price wise. Sony has heat issues too but is much better dealing with it for sure and the low light is better. But ultimately the R5 is a better still camera, for the price of these hybrids you should at least be getting high mpix, with seemingly better IBIS, which is huge, seemingly better RS, and this may be subjective, I just like the canon look better.

And if Canon announces the rumored added recording options its a done deal for me.
 
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When I preordered the R5 in the first 18 seconds preorders went live, I had the a7SIII in the back of my mind knowing well I could cancel it at anytime.

After the first week went by...and the second week went by...I pretty much was 99% sure I was going to keep the Canon.

Into the third week and after an official announcement, I am 100% sure.
 
NorBro said:
When I preordered the R5 in the first 18 seconds preorders went live, I had the a7SIII in the back of my mind knowing well I could cancel it at anytime.

After the first week went by...and the second week went by...I pretty much was 99% sure I was going to keep the Canon.

Into the third week and after an official announcement, I am 100% sure.
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I keep trying to find footage to swing me over to the Sony but I cant. The Atomos footage even pushed me further to the Canon side.
 
mico said:
I'm camera agnostic. I'm speaking for myself not trying to join the Sony vs canon war . I'm seeing better rolling shutter on the R5 although don't know what mode it was in.
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I dont believe in warring either. I agree with everything you said but rolling shutter. Canon rolling shutter is totally fine. A7SIII rolling shutter is next-level almost looks global. Makes sense since it can readout at 120fps. K I looked at kai's test - definitely has some rolling shutter but pretty damn fast

You can't reliably record oversampled 4K on the R5. Even shooting stills heats the camera and limits your recording times. That was basically the dealbreaker for me. The detail from the A7SIII 4K looks totally fine to me. Great looking slow motion, definitely more detail there than R5

Better color on the R5. But business-wise, I know for a fact that most of my clients seem blissfully unaware of canon color superiority. I died on that hill already by not buying an FS7 way sooner
 
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I watched Kais video and for the life of me I cant see the appeal of the image. Blahh blah blah specs. Its the image that this all comes down to and if you're going to spend 3500 on an image that looks like oversharpened video at 25p well go to it.
 
mico said:
I watched Kais video and for the life of me I cant see the appeal of the image. Blahh blah blah specs. Its the image that this all comes down to and if you're going to spend 3500 on an image that looks like oversharpened video at 25p well go to it.
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Haha. I'd buy the R5 if it were more reliable as I prefer the image. That being said, I'm sure we could all do better than Kai... the A7SIII at least has more DR. Oh well
 
R5 has way more data coming in. But SIII looks good enough. One can grade SLog any way s/he likes. It's flexible and malleable. And more so is Raw.
 
I'm going to wait. See what comes out from real world work. Im also curious about canon mystery cam. And Im hoping for a Blackmagic surprise in small form factor cam with their new chip.
 
Frankly, R5 v A7sIII matters not a jot in the real world. We can choose our tools, shoot our finest ever material and the Producer will still F*** it up in the edit.
 
mico said:
I'm going to wait. See what comes out from real world work. Im also curious about canon mystery cam. And Im hoping for a Blackmagic surprise in small form factor cam with their new chip.
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What's canon mystery cam? RF mount video camera? I may wait myself, but I doubt they will come out with something more Ronin-S friendly than the R5
 
ahalpert said:
What's canon mystery cam? RF mount video camera? ...
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Usually, Canon announces its video offerings some time in September. Of course, this year's schedule is no schedule.

Car companies sat idle through the first three months of the CV in the US and now it's a deluge of new announcements. The camera manufacturers are kind of going through the same phase - quiet, quiet ... then, kaboom!
 
Just purchased the ND adapter.

It was extremely difficult getting all of this crazy hype out of my head, but I cannot spend $2300 or $2700 on one of those gorgeous RF zooms just for any minor potential benefits of IBIS and AF for IMAGINARY future shoots.

I'll live if AF or IBIS fail with the adapter when I'm filming some trees.
 
NorBro said:
Just purchased the ND adapter.

It was extremely difficult getting all of this crazy hype out of my head, but I cannot spend $2300 or $2700 on one of those gorgeous RF zooms just for any minor potential benefits of IBIS and AF for IMAGINARY future shoots.

I'll live if AF or IBIS fail with the adapter when I'm filming some trees.
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You'll be fine. Looking forward to hear your experience with the cam and adapter.
 
NorBro said:
Just purchased the ND adapter.

It was extremely difficult getting all of this crazy hype out of my head, but I cannot spend $2300 or $2700 on one of those gorgeous RF zooms just for any minor potential benefits of IBIS and AF for IMAGINARY future shoots.

I'll live if AF or IBIS fail with the adapter when I'm filming some trees.
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Your camera will hate you ;)
 
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