Canon R5 Announced with 8k

You seem to get very angry and defensive. I'm going to drop the subject. You can do whatever you would like. Makes no difference to me.
Samuel H said:
Not everybody here earns their living as a videographer. Personally I'm in the "amateur that spends way too much time and money on their hobby" category. My day job doesn't require me to leave the home and is still paying the bills.

(and still I'm trying very hard to avoid buying a new camera -in my case I think it would be the a7S3 or a couple of XT3, depending on the DR tests with the a7S3- because I can't shoot without getting together with other people and right now that just scares me: I'll try to keep my GAS in check until there are feasible projects in the horizon, and use the time now for eding stuff that I still have pending and do pre-production work on ideas for the future)
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I'm not trying to put a damper on the convo. Everyone's situation is different. I know many people who are unaffected, happily living at home collecting their normal salary. It's pretty exciting just talking about all this new cool gear that's been released.
 
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NorBro said:
What about just being rich? (for those that are)
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NorBro Antoinette: "Let them buy Canon" ;)

Yeah, the only thing giving me pause on the A7S3 is how little I need it right now. I sold my S1/24-105 and intended to replace it. I dont think something better for my needs will come along soon. I'm starting to get a couple tentative bookings for late summer/fall (who knows if they'll stick). Assuming a semblance of normalcy returns next year, it'll be a fine buy for me. But probably the conservative thing to do would be to wait
 
Peter C. said:
You seem to get very angry and defensive.
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I didnt think he sounded angry. This is a safe space, and it makes me glad that everyone can express their views. One of the threads that got me coming here regularly was the "coronavirus economic impact" cameramen-bitching-about-being-out-of-work thread and trading tips.

Sometimes tone gets misconveyed online. I like to remember the brilliant key and peele sketch "text message confusion" shot by dvxuser's own charles papert:
https://youtu.be/naleynXS7yo
 
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ahalpert said:
NorBro Antoinette: "Let them buy Canon" ;)

Yeah, the only thing giving me pause on the A7S3 is how little I need it right now. I sold my S1/24-105 and intended to replace it. I dont think something better for my needs will come along soon. I'm starting to get a couple tentative bookings for late summer/fall (who knows if they'll stick). Assuming a semblance of normalcy returns next year, it'll be a fine buy for me. But probably the conservative thing to do would be to wait
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It's hard to detect tone but he seems defensive.

You got to do what you think is right and that's different for everyone. I would wait for a confirmation/payment then either buy or rent. I've had a lot of promising jobs that end up canceling. I was planning on dropping a $1k on gear for that outdoor interview that ended up not happening. Glad I didn't pull the trigger.
 
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Peter C. said:
I didn't really know how to respond. I'm guessing he must be feeling rich because of the unemployment or has a spouse income. Myself I put all the unemployment in the bank for living expenses. I've got $1,500/month mortgage plus living expenses. If this last for another year with little to no income that easily $20,000 for me just keep my house.
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If you look and find a NorBro post back a bunch of pages he stated the reason for buying the camera and I found it to be the best reason for buying it in these times. It does make me smile because he gets it. No need for anyone to question why or how. His list of how the money is great too.
 
P.S. I cancelled the ND adapter. LOL

Couldn't do it. Bought the 35mm RF to hold me over until I figure out my own lens game plan.

Reevaluated the situation [for the millionth time], and spending $399 is dumb if I can just get a pretty superb RF lens for $100 more.
 
I was avoiding it because I owned it for the EOS R and really wanted a zoom as the main option (and a pancake for fun), or at least something new and different (even though it's great), but the EF lens thinking was ultimately flawed because I would be paying only about $700 less for any of the EF zooms I wanted vs. getting a native RF zoom.

Yeah, it's a welcomed amount to save - but reinvesting into EF glass again was just not the final, bottom line, end of the day best decision.

So I don't get my zoom, but maybe some new and inexpensive f/4 RF alternatives will eventually arrive.
 
Abe, I saw your post about some issues you were having with the S1. I am curious to hear your opinion on how that camera compares to the R6 and the A7SIII? If the lenses did not turn the wrong direction I would think the S1 would be a great choice. I know there are other lenses and adapters :) This heat thing is really going to be a test for the R-cameras from a video purchase decision. Thanks.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Abe, I saw your post about some issues you were having with the S1. I am curious to hear your opinion on how that camera compares to the R6 and the A7SIII? If the lenses did not turn the wrong direction I would think the S1 would be a great choice. I know there are other lenses and adapters :) This heat thing is really going to be a test for the R-cameras from a video purchase decision. Thanks.
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I didn't have any issues with the S1. I loved the camera. There are all these funny little things, too, that I took for granted with Lumix that I'm always finding out I don't get with the new cameras I'm considering. Like waveform monitor or being able to program a button that toggles on the EVF so I can turn off the eye sensor but still use the EVF easily. Lumixes are well-designed.

The issue was that it doesn't have phase-detect autofocus and that you have to crop to APS-C to shoot 4k60p. But I knew that when I bought it, there just wasn't a FF PDAF 10-bit 4k60p option available at the time, and I needed a low-light beast right away.

Great battery life, nice color. The color was probably not as pretty as Canon generally, but totally good-looking and pretty natural skin tones I'd say. Excellent dynamic range. Excellent low-light. Another cool thing - at least with the 24-105 you can set your focus-by-wire to a linear focus ring behavior in the menu and even choose between a few different options of focus throw degrees (180, 270 etc). I can't remember which direction the focus ring rotated....I may have been able to set that....most of the time I had it on my ronin-s and pulled focus with the focus wheel on the ronin. I only bought one L-mount lens (24-105) and just used my EF-mount lenses on it as well.

I would consider the R6 or the R5 if I was less worried about the overheating. I get the impression that just being on raises their heat. I could use the R5 in low-quality or crop mode. But that leaves me feeling meh.

The A7SIII looks like it should be reliable, pending further testing. I'm not in love with the Sony colors but I think I might be able to get good results from it. The only bummer for me is needing to buy E-mount lenses to get good AF from the A7SIII since I already have Canon lenses. But maybe RF lenses work better than EF anyway, so maybe I'm not losing that much.
 
NorBro said:
You can do this with other cameras...have you seen you cannot with the new ones?
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it might have been the a7s3...i feel like i heard mentioned in one of the recent reviews swirling in my head that the eye sensor was sensitive and you had to shut it off and manually toggle on the evf...maybe i'm wrong.

but i haven't heard that anyone else can program the focus throw. that i know of
 
Thanks Abe. Yes, every time I mention the lens direction people say you can change the focus direction, I know, but it is the zoom direction I am speaking of. That can not be changed. I also know most do not care or notice... Primes are fine.
 
:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile:

P.S. If anyone's wondering why it shipped a day before its July 30th release it's because companies can do that as long as you receive it on the day of its official release.

[I could have also chosen to pick it up tomorrow...if B&H was open. See below.]

Although there is no doubt I was #1 on B&H's preorder list after placing the order within 18 seconds after they opened (maybe I was #2 or #3 at the very most), I am happy they did ship it today - as backed-up as they are or appear to be - because they are closed all day tomorrow!

My Canon R5 has shipped!.jpg
 
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NorBro said:
:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile:

P.S. If anyone's wondering why it shipped a day before its July 30th release is because companies can do that as long as you receive it on the day of its official release. (I could have also chosen to pick it up tomorrow.)

Although there is very little doubt I was #1 on B&H's preorder list after placing the order within 18 seconds after they opened (maybe I was #2 or #3 at the very most), I am happy they did ship it today as backed-up as they are (or appear to be) because they are closed all day tomorrow!

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Sweet:-)
 
My dealer called me that he received mine today short before closing the shop. Too late for pickup. Pity but good also because I had to finish editing 2 videos.
 
Ken1212 said:
R5 overheating by shooting stills only !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch Northrup's video below, after shooting about an hour of stills with auto focus tracking he was able to only get 2 minutes of 8k video.


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Am I the only person who’s wondering what happened to Tony’s skin?
Did he run too much overheating tests in scorching sun?
 
When I watched it days ago, I thought it looked like a fixed white balance.

I believe he's using the RP on himself. If so, it's HD (terrible).

And the reason the video is 4K is because he is using a 4K timeline to show us the other cameras, but his own presentation (doesn't matter) is filmed in HD and upscaled.

At least that's my understanding.
 
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