Canon R5 Announced with 8k
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rob norton
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Can you tap to change eyes the same way you tap other parts of the screen or is it more automatic?
NorBro
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You haven't been able to tap eyes in the past, but you can thankfully choose left eye, right eye, or auto.
Highly recommend choosing an eye if you're playing with fast glass.
[For interviews, I pick the eye closest to the lens depending on which direction talent is facing.]
Highly recommend choosing an eye if you're playing with fast glass.
[For interviews, I pick the eye closest to the lens depending on which direction talent is facing.]
rob norton
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That's amazing. Yeah same here, I hate it when there's a more profile angle and neither eye is in focus but the nose is!
On the high end, there's room for a full frame 8K camera with a dual gain sensor a la C300 MKIII (if they did it once, they can do it again, right? ... OK, let's assume they can), DPAF, Raw, HEVC, IBIS, good ISO, etc. In other words, C500 MKIII with 8K and dual gain. C500 MKIII with all the extensions is about $22,000, I believe. So, this can be ~ $30,000-$35,000 in a C700 body.
At some point, a naked eye can't tell anymore. You gots resolution, you gots the dynamic range, you gots the codecs, you gots the IBIS. There's not much left to do.
It'll probably be 1D X MKIII (currently $6,500) in a C100 style body but without the 12-bit Raw. 5.5K for $5.5K. Close enough.
I ran a 100m dash in 6.5 seconds on the official Soviet stopwatch.
(I think I already used that joke in this thread ... now it's on my greatest hits album)
puredrifting
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Based upon the C700/FF, the main issue was that it, a rather expensive, large, heavy body, didn't really make images that looked much better than the C300 MKII which cost less than half the price. IMHO, if they want to make and sell a flagship camera, it has to do things that the C500 MKII cannot, it has to make a noticeably better looking image
and most importantly, it has to look as good or preferably better than the Arri, RED, Venice. I'm not sure if that's possible? It also has to be laid out logically for crewed production. ACs need to be excited about working with the camera. DPs need to see something special in the images, latitude, DR. It seems as if that is probably more difficult if they make the
camera 8K or 12K. That is one cool thing about the new BMD camera, they have literally reinvented the sensor. I don't know if Canon can or will do something audacious like that? They seem to large and conservative. The failure of the C700/FF has also caused a lot of high end DPs to basically write Canon off too, they would have that to overcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktzy9ErqL0
Northrup. But there's no testing of the "recovery time". He says, if I understood him properly, that once it starts shutting down, it's a long, 2 hrs+, wait.
As to C700, one can quote Leo Tolstoy about the unhappiness being caused by a number of things, but if there's a resuscitation to Canon's high end idea, it will be based on the workflow rather than a pure image quality. And it may have never reach its highest aspiration of the A-cam on a big budget set but it could dominate everything below it.
PS. Both the 8K image and the 4K HQ (a downsampled 8K) from R5 is more than enough for the vast bulk of the viewers.
Northrup. But there's no testing of the "recovery time". He says, if I understood him properly, that once it starts shutting down, it's a long, 2 hrs+, wait.
As to C700, one can quote Leo Tolstoy about the unhappiness being caused by a number of things, but if there's a resuscitation to Canon's high end idea, it will be based on the workflow rather than a pure image quality. And it may have never reach its highest aspiration of the A-cam on a big budget set but it could dominate everything below it.
PS. Both the 8K image and the 4K HQ (a downsampled 8K) from R5 is more than enough for the vast bulk of the viewers.
NorBro
Major Contributor
No, you misunderstood him.
HE DECIDED to wait that long before using it again because he was waiting for the body to cool down to the touch (that's his choice).
Two takeaways from this:
(1) If the camera shuts down from overheating, you can wait for as long as the manual states, and then if you start recording it will only record for the additional times specified.
(2) If you wait 2+ hours then the process restarts, and it's like using the camera for the first time again in which you'll once again get that 10-20-30 minute recording...and then also the additional minutes after it cools down if you were to start it up back again (immediately and not 2 hours later).
As far as later losing minutes, all subject to change with conditions and other variables.
puredrifting
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Everyone is different and works differently but for me, shooting BTS and documentary, often outdoors in the sun, this overheating completely
rules out the Canon R5. IMHO, Canon should have made a video variant and put a fan in it like the S-1H. But they didn't. Bummer.
rules out the Canon R5. IMHO, Canon should have made a video variant and put a fan in it like the S-1H. But they didn't. Bummer.
Somebody will be ordering new R5 oven mitts.
NorBro
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I've never watched an entire T&C N video (that was the first one).
Still think they deserve all of the success in the world as I mentioned the other week, but dude made like 5 mistakes in the video, including not knowing the difference between MB and Mb (or at least being confused about it during this presentation).
Still think they deserve all of the success in the world as I mentioned the other week, but dude made like 5 mistakes in the video, including not knowing the difference between MB and Mb (or at least being confused about it during this presentation).