Canon R5 Announced with 8k

Canon does have a video R series - R6.

The R6 is not video series. It's a 6D/Z6/S1/a7III. It's a lower-end stills camera but not entry-level

It still has overheating issues + a wimpy rolling shutter. The R5 trounces it on fundamentals before getting to the boost modes
 
You haven't been able to tap eyes in the past, but you can thankfully choose left eye, right eye, or auto.

Highly recommend choosing an eye if you're playing with fast glass.

[For interviews, I pick the eye closest to the lens depending on which direction talent is facing.]
 
You can thankfully choose left eye, right eye, or auto.

Highly recommend choosing an eye if you're playing with fast glass.

[For interviews, I pick the eye closest to the camera depending on which direction talent is facing.]

That's amazing. Yeah same here, I hate it when there's a more profile angle and neither eye is in focus but the nose is!
 
I agree but BMD is disrupting the market pretty well with the new 12k at $10k camera. Then again, I don't see high end production migrating to the BMD camera either. Just trying to think where they would price and slot
in a camera above the C500 MKII? I think politically, they would HAVE to make sure that camera was considered a success. If they went out of the box and brought in actual Hollywood working DPs to collaborate and help to design the camera and made it actually better than other $28k cameras, it could be a hit. We all know Canon has the design and engineering as well as manufacturing capability make a viable Venice/RED/Arri contender but will their political and cultural structure prevent them from doing so?

Very interesting market we have now with lots of companies doing new and somewhat daring things.

On the high end, there's room for a full frame 8K camera with a dual gain sensor a la C300 MKIII (if they did it once, they can do it again, right? ... OK, let's assume they can), DPAF, Raw, HEVC, IBIS, good ISO, etc. In other words, C500 MKIII with 8K and dual gain. C500 MKIII with all the extensions is about $22,000, I believe. So, this can be ~ $30,000-$35,000 in a C700 body.

At some point, a naked eye can't tell anymore. You gots resolution, you gots the dynamic range, you gots the codecs, you gots the IBIS. There's not much left to do.

Dream on brother - that sounds better than a C300III in some ways

It'll probably be 1D X MKIII (currently $6,500) in a C100 style body but without the 12-bit Raw. 5.5K for $5.5K. Close enough.
 
Ok I downloaded some RAW to play with. Very sexy colors. Much like their stills. Just too bad it was 2GB in 5 seconds. But they claim they're working on a lower bitrate
 
On the high end, there's room for a full frame 8K camera with a dual gain sensor a la C300 MKIII (if they did it once, they can do it again, right? ... OK, let's assume they can), DPAF, Raw, HEVC, IBIS, good ISO, etc. In other words, C500 MKIII with 8K and dual gain. C500 MKIII with all the extensions is about $22,000, I believe. So, this can be ~ $30,000-$35,000 in a C700 body.

At some point, a naked eye can't tell anymore. You gots resolution, you gots the dynamic range, you gots the codecs, you gots the IBIS. There's not much left to do.



It'll probably be 1D X MKIII (currently $6,500) in a C100 style body but without the 12-bit Raw. 5.5K for $5.5K. Close enough.

Based upon the C700/FF, the main issue was that it, a rather expensive, large, heavy body, didn't really make images that looked much better than the C300 MKII which cost less than half the price. IMHO, if they want to make and sell a flagship camera, it has to do things that the C500 MKII cannot, it has to make a noticeably better looking image
and most importantly, it has to look as good or preferably better than the Arri, RED, Venice. I'm not sure if that's possible? It also has to be laid out logically for crewed production. ACs need to be excited about working with the camera. DPs need to see something special in the images, latitude, DR. It seems as if that is probably more difficult if they make the
camera 8K or 12K. That is one cool thing about the new BMD camera, they have literally reinvented the sensor. I don't know if Canon can or will do something audacious like that? They seem to large and conservative. The failure of the C700/FF has also caused a lot of high end DPs to basically write Canon off too, they would have that to overcome.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktzy9ErqL0

Northrup. But there's no testing of the "recovery time". He says, if I understood him properly, that once it starts shutting down, it's a long, 2 hrs+, wait.

As to C700, one can quote Leo Tolstoy about the unhappiness being caused by a number of things, but if there's a resuscitation to Canon's high end idea, it will be based on the workflow rather than a pure image quality. And it may have never reach its highest aspiration of the A-cam on a big budget set but it could dominate everything below it.

PS. Both the 8K image and the 4K HQ (a downsampled 8K) from R5 is more than enough for the vast bulk of the viewers.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktzy9ErqL0

Northrup. But there's no testing of the "recovery time". He says, if I understood him properly, that once it starts shutting down, it's a long, 2 hrs+, wait.

No, you misunderstood him.

HE DECIDED to wait that long before using it again because he was waiting for the body to cool down to the touch (that's his choice).

Two takeaways from this:

(1) If the camera shuts down from overheating, you can wait for as long as the manual states, and then if you start recording it will only record for the additional times specified.

(2) If you wait 2+ hours then the process restarts, and it's like using the camera for the first time again in which you'll once again get that 10-20-30 minute recording...and then also the additional minutes after it cools down if you were to start it up back again (immediately and not 2 hours later).

As far as later losing minutes, all subject to change with conditions and other variables.
 
Everyone is different and works differently but for me, shooting BTS and documentary, often outdoors in the sun, this overheating completely
rules out the Canon R5. IMHO, Canon should have made a video variant and put a fan in it like the S-1H. But they didn't. Bummer.

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I linked that video more for the IBIS test.

Overheating thoughts were useless as framerates weren't provided.
 
I've never watched an entire T&C N video (that was the first one).

Still think they deserve all of the success in the world as I mentioned the other week, but dude made like 5 mistakes in the video, including not knowing the difference between MB and Mb (or at least being confused about it during this presentation).
 
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