Canon R5 Announced with 8k

Now there's an "official" canonrumors post on upcoming firmware (which is not a type of post they usually make, so there could be something to it):

Rumored Canon EOS R5 Firmware Update:

FullHD 120p
Adding a low bitrate mode for RAW & IPB in all recording modes
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Rumored Canon EOS R6 Firmware Update:

Adding All-I for all record modes
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DLD said:
A $1,000 phone costs about $350 to make (in parts alone).



Here's an electric car bit that relates. Over the last decade, the manufacturing cost of a car battery went from ~ $1,000 per KW/h to $$150-$175. That is reflected in drop of the electric car pricing. Has a similar drop taken place with camera batteries?
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I don’t think they’ve dropped that much, but I remember when AB came out with their, I believe, 160WH(maybe 190) Dionic(Li-ion) battery and it was almost $1K. You can find 190’s for less than $600 and almost 300 WH batt’s for $650(CSWX/BH special) to $799. And that’s not digging very deep, just glancing at one brand.
 
ahalpert said:
Do you own only sony v-mount batteries? Does anyone else? Are all non-Sony v-mounts crap? No - each manufacturer has their own reputation, right? They're just batteries
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I don’t use V-mounts. Back-in-the day, lots of TV stations that were “Sony Shops” would usually have Sony ENG cameras and Sony V-mount batteries(and in the NP1 days before that, but it’d eventually become a mix of Sony and 3rd party). Also, guys that bought F5/55 packages that came with a couple of Sony V-mounts, stuck with them for that camera, too.
 
ahalpert said:
Everyone knows AB makes crappy batteries ;)
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It’s actually because of the HyTron’s that I switched to Switronix(now Core SWX). But the AB Li-ion batts are much better and I wouldn’t have a problem going back. I will say, though, that AB builds some of the best chargers on planet. My original AB charger is almost 23 years old and is still working and used every day. Core’s chargers on the other hand... Out of three full size chargers and one portable, only one charges all of my batteries(mostly Core batteries). Makes no damn sense that their own chargers won’t charge their own batteries. But I can slap Core batts on my AB chargers and they charge like champs.
 
ahalpert said:
So eventually the TV stations bought 3rd party batteries too?
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It kind of depended. Some always used 3rd party. You need to look at when this was, too. Back then you essentially had Anton Bauer, Pag, Frezzi and Sony(IDX came in in the late 90’s). There weren’t really “cheap” alternatives. Most cameras were actually designed with being run on A/B’s in mind. Look in the brochures from back then. One of the features was being able to interface with circuitry in the A/B’s or give you battery % in the VF(this was before every battery had built-in viewable meters). Nine times out of ten, if the cameras were set up for bricks, they were Anton’s and you may see the odd Frezzi in that mix. One of the stations here actually used Pags and this was when they still only had their own mounting system. So usually you saw either ENG cameras with A/B bricks or NP-1 drop-in’s. It was kind of funny, around here when I was first coming into the business, we only had three TV news stations and they were all Sony, but each one did power differently. One ran Gold Mount’s to power the whole camera system. One ran NP-1’s to power the camera, but had Gold Mount plates underneath the deck just for the top-light and the third ran Pag’s. When everyone started going to digital(still SD), the first station went DVCPRO and stayed Gold Mount(Panasonic cameras came with A/B Gold Mount plates mounted from the factory), the other station went BetaSX(Sony) and stayed with the factory V-Mount and used Sony V-Mount batts and the last went P2 and stayed Pag. But today, I have no idea, especially since so many stations run little cams or a mix of full-sized ENG and handycam. Back to ‘back-in-the-day’: But the vast majority were going to be bricks(balanced the cams better and ran longer). And on the freelance and network side, you were almost never going to see NP-1’s or BP-90’s(the other crappy battery style). 99% of that was A/B bricks, until V-mounts came in in the late 90’s. It made some in-roads, but most stuck with the Gold Mount style. Especially here in the US. It’s a much more robust and secure system. I think V-mounts really came to the forefront with RED, but really, outside of that and the relative newcomers to the industry(last 10 years), here in the US, most guys with big cameras are still running Gold Mount style batts. I think I only have two friends that run V-mounts. And even though I’m not currently running Anton Bauer’s on my cam, I’m still running Gold Mounts.
 
Interesting info Run&Gun - out of curiosity, have you ever heard of a bad battery breaking a camera? Hasn't happened to me yet knock on wood
 
Sorry NorBro "Canon Japan warns R5, R6 and accessories could ship later than expected due to demand" - might have to wait!
 
But anyone else find it ironic [if true] that Sony may announce the a7SIII on almost the exact day the R5 is supposed to ship?

Just a coincidence, right?...
 
Run&Gun said:
It kind of depended. Some always used 3rd party. You need to look at when this was, too. Back then you essentially had Anton Bauer, Pag, Frezzi and Sony(IDX came in in the late 90’s). There weren’t really “cheap” alternatives. Most cameras were actually designed with being run on A/B’s in mind.
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This is a very US centric view.

I worked for camera Rea to companies in the 90’s and for the rest of the world, and certainly Australia / UK it was all NP or BP90’s. And really mostly it was NPs. AB’s were considered “American” style and weren’t ever adopted widely at all. AB’s added too much cost and the battery chargers were a lot more expensive. No one used them in Oz. VLOCKS took over in the mid 90’s and are everywhere. They are the default battery. The brands mentioned made batteries in that mount too of course.

I’ve always preferred AB, but when in Rome...now especially that it’s so hard to transport batteries...

JB
 
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