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I think one of my cheap lpe6 batteries doesn't hold a charge now. But neither does one of my c300 batteries (original canon) after taking a mild fall (true, it was several years old). Both of them "charge" but do not power

And look at v-mount batteries - there's no 3rd party because there's no 1st party (or is it 2nd party? "The party of the first part...")
 
NorBro said:
Only Watson and Ikan. Maybe some other one that was free in a kit at some point in life.

Although inaccurate readings may eventually be related to the battery's true health, they are also due to some cheaper batteries not communicating with the camera properly (especially over time as they age).

On a contrary but related note: With older non-battery plate Blackmagics, if you used a brick battery (even the best brands) to power them via D-tap, the battery meter sometimes would go haywire ranging from 10% to 100% even though the camera was able to be powered for 8+ hours straight.

In reality, I don't have as much battery experience as ahalpert seems to have with them as I've never owned a camera or any of its third-party batteries long enough to know how they would eventually end up.
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Oh interesting, you sell off the batteries as well?

There was one brand that I used with the A7sII that seemed to be better than the Wasabi's that my friend bought, but the Sony battery was still a bit better, charged faster and lasted longer. I moved on to an Anton Bauer and a dummy though.

Watsons have seemed pretty good recently. I think was some old NP-F style ones a while back might have been mediocre, but they seem to be getting favorable feedback considering the price.
 
ahalpert said:
I think one of my cheap lpe6 batteries doesn't hold a charge now. But neither does one of my c300 batteries (original canon) after taking a mild fall (true, it was several years old). Both of them "charge" but do not power

And look at v-mount batteries - there's no 3rd party because there's no 1st party (or is it 2nd party? "The party of the first part...")
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Yeah, any battery has got to give out eventually. Even at reduced capacity, though, the Vitec Anton Bauers still feel confidence and read accurately, like google maps freaky accurate.

What scares me is not reduced capacity so much as just randomly losing power, in particular under 30%.
 
James0b57 said:
What scares me is not reduced capacity so much as just randomly losing power, in particular under 30%.
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Agreed. My original Canon batteries for both C300 and 5Dmk3 have probably 60-80% of their original capacity by now. I dont think i have any random death batteries. I hope they don't introduce a totally new battery for the A7SIII...it always takes a while for the copycats to come out
 
They cost nickels and dimes, I would include the few I had with the cameras as they were proprietary and I wouldn't be using them in another camera anytime soon.

The two major types are E6 and NP-F. For E6, I mostly used Canons, and for the NP-F I was on and off with keeping and selling. They were mostly used for lights or recorders.

At the end of the day, I think it's a moot point because if someone is working enough to worry about the health of their batteries, I imagine they would just buy the best-of-the-best. And others will just buy 30 $2 ones and be okay too.
 
NorBro said:
At the end of the day, I think it's a moot point because if someone is working enough to worry about the health of their batteries, I imagine they would just buy the best-of-the-best. And others will just buy 30 $2 ones and be okay too.
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I'm always trying to stretch my budget. Save enough on accessories...you can buy a new lens! If your batteries work, there's no qualitative difference in your footage. Then buy lights, rigging, drone, ugh. I'm getting to a place where I'm rounded out though, so I suppose once I'm not spread so thin expanding my arsenal, I'll buy the brand-name batteries. But judging by what other dvxusers with a lot more gear than I own say...that day will never come

My batteries work fine
 
The randomly losing power is a good point though.

I'm always using AC if filming stuff like that (mostly because many of the cameras I've used had a battery that only lasted 30-40 minutes), but also understand not every production, location or environment will have that available.
 
ahalpert said:
Agreed. My original Canon batteries for both C300 and 5Dmk3 have probably 60-80% of their original capacity by now. I dont think i have any random death batteries. I hope they don't introduce a totally new battery for the A7SIII...it always takes a while for the copycats to come out
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As long as a battery doesn't randomly give out, and the power meter is relatively predictable, that is a good battery.
 
ahalpert said:
A cheap experiment though. I bought an lpe6 new on ebay for $1 and 2 with a charger for $9. They all work great in my 5dmk3 and ikan d7. A $1k iphone costs $100 to make...
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So, how has it worked out? That is a crazy price.
 
James0b57 said:
So, how has it worked out? That is a crazy price.
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So far so good. Not a super demanding application though - either my 5Dmk3 or my ikan D7. But zero issues and good life with both. The batteries say "BONACELL" on them. Putting them in a pocket 6K would probably be a tougher test of their mettle...

I dont see the same price now though. Now they're on Ebay for about $30 for a 2-pack with charger. The $1 buy was a no-contest auction (new not used). Sometimes there's weird gear auctions from china that have a super low starting bid
 
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Oh, so this is a battery thread now... XD

On the p4k, which already eats batteries like crazy, I'm using the included BM and some RavPower LPE6 batteries, and they seem to last the same. I haven't bought a Canon/Sony/etc battery since 2012: just do some research and choose a decent off-brand option, they're usually 10%-20% of the price for 90% of the performance.
 
ahalpert said:
So far so good. Not a super demanding application though - either my 5Dmk3 or my ikan D7. But zero issues and good life with both. The batteries say "BONACELL" on them. Putting them in a pocket 6K would probably be a tougher test of their mettle...

I dont see the same price now though. Now they're on Ebay for about $30 for a 2-pack with charger. The $1 buy was a no-contest auction (new not used). Sometimes there's weird gear auctions from china that have a super low starting bid
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Ah, gotcha, thought that was just the list price. But still good deal. I may keep a look out for those, so I can power some AKS. Thanks!!!
 
Samuel H said:
Oh, so this is a battery thread now... XD

On the p4k, which already eats batteries like crazy, I'm using the included BM and some RavPower LPE6 batteries, and they seem to last the same. I haven't bought a Canon/Sony/etc battery since 2012: just do some research and choose a decent off-brand option, they're usually 10%-20% of the price for 90% of the performance.
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The new mirrorless Canon's are just like every other camera update for the last two decades. A little better, not perfect, but just enough to make it a buy.

"yeah, it has some issues that prevent it from being a great all rounder A-cam... but AF and 8K..." 2-4 years from now a version with more DR and better RS and a whole bunch of built in wireless features.... it won't do... but.... click-buy. rinse repeat.

Sorry to ruin your ground hogs day new camera release thread. ;)

RE: batteries. I've seen some crappy batteries over the years, and it has been a while since I looked at NP-F and E6 flavours, pretty great how far the 3rd party batts have come in the last 10 years. I've not heard of Rav Power, will give them a look-see. Thanks! =)
 
AndreeOnline said:
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With batteries someone might get 20min out of a P6K and think "wow, this camera really draws a lot of power", and not think twice about the brand of the battery. Even the 'in the box' LP-E6 is off brand "Blackmagic Design". …
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Hi Andree,
When my P6K arrived recently, original Canon LP-E6n batteries, after being fully charged, held much less time than the battery that came with the camera. Possibly because they are few years old and weren’t used for some time.
 
Here is a nice review with a production R6. He compares to a Z6 /Atomos. The Canon R6 footage looks very nice. Nikon kind of beats it in a quick little AF test and the rolling shutter on the R6 is pretty much the same as the 1DXIII - basically pretty bad! He does an overheat test in 4k50p and gets about 25 mins of run time before the fire alarms go off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CnRhEUGpcQ
 
Does anyone know if the raw files behave in a similar way to the 1DXIII? Are they in clog2 when dropping them in Resolve or Cinema Raw development software?
When I grade 1DXIII CRM files in Resolve they're in Clog 2 which is great.
 
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