no s*%t Sherlock
Sorry, I did not catch the earlier post. Between the overheating and the micro-HDMI socket I can't see using this camera for any kind of video production work.
Canon R5 Announced with 8k
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Sorry, I did not catch the earlier post. Between the overheating and the micro-HDMI socket I can't see using this camera for any kind of video production work.
ahalpert
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I wouldn't say it's unfit for any kind of video Production - but it will be unfit for yours and most of mine. Some people here seem quite content to work within its limitations or only use it when they can. And I think that for photographers who just want to flip a switch and catch a quick high-quality clip of what they were shooting stills of, it will rock. No generalizations!
Can you imagine having to halt production and have everyone involved with the shoot have to take a break every time the camera overheated, or have to take a few minutes to switch the camera body to another one with identical shooting settings.
Maybe for no budget Indies with tiny crews, or for still shooters who just want a few minutes of BTS footage.
Also my experience with Micro-HDMI sockets is that they are designed to break within a few days of regular shooting. With my GH4 I had to bolt the micro-HDMI to a camera cage and then never take it off in order to make it reliable.
NorBro
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So just wondering...which camera did you use before this one for 8K video production or full-frame 4K/60p?
Clermond
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It has been topic no1 in all forums, maybe only here 50-100 posts
I've never shot 8K and I don't see any client asking for 8K in the next 5 years. Even now shooting 4K, I am almost always delivering 1080p as the finished video.
If 8K suddenly became a thing for me, I would probably shoot with RED.
Clermond
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Not only bts. It’s just notsuitable as the 1st or only camera for productions
It’s a still camera 1st and the long awaited overdue successor of the 5D series. It has limitations in video but show me a 45mp stills camera that performs better in video
ahalpert
Major Contributor
Lumix S1R? (Minus AF, which is a big minus)
I rarely shoot 60p, since most of my work is going to be used for internal or online corporate websites I shoot just about everything in 30p.
Provided you don't mind manual focusing I would go for the Panasonic S1H shooting 4K 60p Super35, but if it had to be FF then you can rent the best that's available.
Honestly, I was expecting a significant catch with the Canon R5 because of Canon's history of promising and then under delivering, which seems to be the case here if you shoot video.
Run&Gun
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And there are other problems you run into as you get into the really high frame rates that you don't think about. Flicker everywhere from practical, real life lights. Even just in passing, I saw LED's lights on some of the cars flickering and at 120 and above, you're going to see 60Hz flicker even in household tungsten bulbs.
NorBro
Major Contributor
I was just about to say then you have nothing to complain about!!! ...until you said you shoot just about everything in 30p.
You're then part of the rare club who shoots higher framerates for long-form video (even though 30p isn't as rare as 60p).
In reality, 24p/25p is what more people use for extended periods of time, and both aren't on their own overheating charts.
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Many other people who complain about overheating will NEVER shoot 8K and BARELY ever shoot 60p for long-form acquisition.
Someone provided me an example about shooting 60p all day long and I understood completely. And if you're doing that with 30p (at least in the high-quality mode that is mentioned because I doubt the lower-quality one will overheat) then that's understood too.
ahalpert
Major Contributor
There's a pixel-binned 4K30p mode on the R5 that does not overheat. Not that I'm advocating this camera - just saying...
Run&Gun
Veteran
But it's 4K, 4:2:0 8-biit
Clermond
Veteran
Big big minus. And 8bit only. I own it and never shot a video with it. Stills are fantastic though.
ahalpert
Major Contributor
But let's face it - if it passes muster, we should all be getting the A7SIII instead
If you read the sonyalpharumors comments, it's the photographers who are complaining about that camera's (rumored) design and the videographers who are rejoicing. With the R5, it's the opposite
If you read the sonyalpharumors comments, it's the photographers who are complaining about that camera's (rumored) design and the videographers who are rejoicing. With the R5, it's the opposite
Run&Gun
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And my take on it, if you're shooting 30P, you should just be shooting 24P. My world of TV is mostly 24P or 60P. You either want the "film cadence"(24) or "Live"(60P). I think some people still confuse 30P with 30 frames interlaced from our 'ole SD days. 30 frames then gave us the cadence of 60P, because you had 60 fields every second. I have shot more 4K video in five years than I've shot 30P since HD came out. Honestly, I can probably count those times on one hand. Maybe two, with some fingers left over.