Canon R5 Announced with 8k
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AndreeOnline
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The concept works. But to me it felt like a crutch. I get that if someone is using a body where the crop is severe, it can be a good tradeoff.
There are a couple of brands out there and some of them have some significant distortion and softening. What I wanted to say is that I wouldn't build my camera around the concept of "the power of Speedboosters". Then I'd rather by lenses for the MFT mount or like now, be happy with EF+S35 for the moment, while keeping an ear on the ground to see what might come next.
Luckily I don't suffer from GAS, so I don't have to buy stuff for the sake of it.
ahalpert
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I get what you're saying.
I'm actually super happy with my cheap Viltrox .71x speedbooster on the GH5. It was like $130 and I don't detect softening or distortion. I use it all the time. The one noticeable effect is a bright blue flare when hard light comes down the lens directly. But it's a beautiful effect and it doesn't kill me.
So yes, I'd agree that a speedbooster becomes part of the optical system and can add a consistent character to all your lenses, whether you want it to or not.
I'd rather not have to use one, although it's cool to achieve different DOF with the same sensor by using it or removing it.
A FF RF camera is awesome because you don't need a speedbooster, you can use the vari-ND adapter, you can use your old Leica M lenses...
One of my concerns using FF lenses on S35 sensor (which is a bit generous for the pocket 6K I believe - isn't it less than S35?) is that my Rokinon 24/35/50/85 are all T1.5 but if I go over to 16mm or 135mm they are T2.9 and T2.2. It would be nice to have a consistent maximum aperture all the way to a true 24mm (even if I'd rather be at a T2 or more most of the time).
As for GAS, I have a lot of GAS fantasies. I fantasized about buying the Eva-1, C200, Pocket 4K, S1H. I bought none of them and instead bought FS7 because of clients and S1 because it was cheaper than the S1H and did what it needed to do. I love the S1.
I will wait to see how R5 and Komodo shake out. There is also an R6 (though I don't know if that will have RAW) and a GH6 on the horizon. Who knows, maybe we'll see a FF Pocket. Whatever I buy, I'm sure I'll buy it at least a year after its release (and in an ideal world I'd buy it used, but you have to wait 3-4 years for used bodies to turn up).
But the Pocket 4K will undoubtedly remain the cheapest of all and remains a strong performer. It would be nice if it had a bit more DR, but it may be sufficient.
FWIW, GH-6 was supposed to be announced in January, if their previous release schedule held to form. It wasn't and now the pricing and technology took another step forward. Pocket6K has s35 sensor, Raw and, as some of you know, 6K. Its auto focus is barely existent but was GH-5 (the firmware upgrades made it better ... on occasions). Early GH-6 rumors mention 8K and Raw - in the same sentence, no less - but they're currently unsubstantiated. And there's no idea of the price.
Nothing like having production shut down by force majeur to take the wind out of the GAS, eh?
Hopefully production will be able to resume this fall, though small productions might be able to get going over the summer.
AndreeOnline
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All that matters.
Yes, I guess. You'll find that I managed to sneak in air quotes around S35 in my last post, but it's still how BMD references it. There are quite a few sensors out there that are called S35, but they are all a bit different in size. The P6K is 23.10mm wide – 25mm would have been better.
I bought the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 when I bought the P6K. It (or the cinema version of it) feels like a mandatory lens for that camera. You don't have to use it all the time, but it's nice to have it.
In that way, we are all the same. Without the 'A' it doesn't count. Let's just call it our 'thought process'. =) I'm sure that's only healthy.
It's GGAS... Gedanken Gear Acquisition Syndrome, where we imagine what it would be like to want to buy new gear.
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I can only imagine what the rolling shutter will be on an 8K stills camera.
Silenkiller
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so the question for me now is 1dxm3 or the 5r for video hm
puredrifting
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We have a good load of clients who are eager to get into production, both live streaming and traditional marketing videos. Some are hoping for early June, we'll see.
Grug
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I don't really know anything about the cameras, but assuming similar specs, surely the mirrorless camera is going to be easier to work with for video than a DSLR?
Jaime Valles
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The R5 will likely be better for video than the 1DX III because:
1) It's higher resolution (8K vs 5.5K)
2) It has a swivel screen
3) It can have ND filters on the EF adapter
4) It's lighter weight so better for gimbals/drones
5) It'll likely be significantly less expensive
That said, there's no way to know if the image quality will be better, the same or worse until footage from both starts appearing online in well-controlled shootouts. We just have to wait it out.
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S1H has a stellar EVF. Would love a slightly better one, and wouldn't mine paying for it, if they also reposition the video out and make it BNC.
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Yeah, it is nearly as good as the dedicate $4000 OLED’s sold by other companies. That alone almost made me buy one on the spot.
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What are you suggesting as an alternative? A swivel adjustable EVF? That could be cool.
There is something sublime about an all in one unibody design though. Of course with the option to add an external EVF would ideal.
But the quality of the EVF on the S1H, for a mirrorless camera, is the best I've seen.