Canon C70 to get internal 12-bit Canon Raw Lite recording via firmware

[QuickHitRecord]

What about noise levels? Is noise reduction needed?

I hope not. That was my conundrum with the C200. The H264 was too sharp, and the CRL was too noisy. The solution was to shoot everything with CRL and denoise it, which really slowed down my workflow. But I have high hopes for the DGO sensor of the C70. It's the first Canon camera I've been happy using at ISO 800, and as such I don't see myself switching for a long time.

 

[Ben_Ericson]

I hope not. That was my conundrum with the C200. The H264 was too sharp, and the CRL was too noisy. The solution was to shoot everything with CRL and denoise it, which really slowed down my workflow. But I have high hopes for the DGO sensor of the C70. It's the first Canon camera I've been happy using at ISO 800, and as such I don't see myself switching for a long time.

Same. The C70 image is very very clean. It still has nice texture as well. You can really dig into the shadows.

I noticed this in the firmware update video as well. Would this be a way to remove all NR from the regular 10 bit files? (Recording Proxy.) I notice sometimes there is a lack of detail in the shadows of skin tone. (Assuming this is due to NR.) I can't even remember if you can turn it off.

 

[digitalinnovations]

That's great news. My concerns were mainly work flow. A friend of mine edited a project with interviews shot with the C500 in CLR and complained about import times and playback. I am excited to try it on the C70.




What about noise levels? Is noise reduction needed?

I obviously cannot speak for your friend (or anyone other than myself) but transferring the footage from the cards to the hard drives is totally dependent on your card reader speed / connection type and obviously what kind of drives you’re using (NAS, SSD, spinning, etc.). It can take a little bit but this can be a lot of data when shooting 6K RAW but I’ve never found it to be unreasonable.

Once on the drives, the import is essentially instantaneous in Resolve and FCPX - except for generating waveforms which both softwares can take a minute if there are long takes / a bunch of footage. I’ve pretty much never used proxies on either but playback can get a little choppy if using a lot of effects / color modes.

When it comes to noise, I’ve only ever used NR on my C500 footage when shooting above 1600 ISO and honestly, for the projects I shoot RAW with, I pretty much never go above 1600 but regardless of the footage being RAW or XF-AVC, a touch of NR cleans it right up.

Obviously, there’s no way to judge the C70’s RAW noise at this point but I would not expect it to be a noisy image. The C500 certainly isn’t, I haven’t really heard of anyone saying the C300’s RAW is overly noisy so I would expect similar results with the C70. It could be a little more noisy due to the lower bitrate RAW I suppose but I would think noise would be more dictated by the sensor / image processing and these new Canons just aren’t very noisy in my experience.