C200: C200 Firmware Update Spring 2018

[puredrifting]

By the way, it does NOT remember your frame rate when you change from RAW to sd card recording.

Didn't expect it to but that is still an obnoxious "feature". It appears that our firmware fix list thread was basically ignored. One area that Panasonic BURIES Canon in, they actually listen and change things based upon users. Quickly. Canon says they do but the results seem to belie that claim. Discounting everyone whinging about the lack of a 4:2:2 10-bit codec, which is a marketing issue, not an engineering issue, there are dozens of small problems with the C200 that Canon really should fix, not adding new features, just fixing some half-baked implementation that really shouldn't have been in the released camera firmware. We're coming up on 10 months the camera has been out, come on Canon!

 

[puredrifting]

Any luck to see if more CFast cards (512GB) are supported after firmware update? Actually I'm using a 512GB Angelbird card and quite often it's not recognized by the camera, I'm looking for the new Sandisk 512GB card that should not present the issue according to a friend that has suggested me to change it.

Sticking with 256GB cards personally, your experience is echoed all over the here and YouTube.

 

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Sticking with 256GB cards personally, your experience is echoed all over the here and YouTube.

It's like a torture, you know? Just yesterday the original dealer give me also two 256GB Angelbird card to make more tests, next days I will perform more tests. But I'd like to have a 512GB Cfast card because is more comfortable to me so I will ask to change Angelbird to new Sandisk 512GB card, because the Sandisk reader finally works on iMac Pro, the Atomos not.

 

[dave12781]

The 512gb EgoDisk cards work great with the C200.

 

[brm]

The full list of required additional software:

*1 Please use the following software applications:
Canon XF Utility 3.3 for Windows/macOS
Canon XF Plugin 3.3 for Avid Media Access (Windows/macOS)
*2 You will need to format the SD cards completely with the camera before recording.
*3 For detailed information about SD cards that have been verified to work with this camera, please visit Canon's Web site.
*4 Canon has verified that clips shot with this firmware version can be imported directly intoApple’s Final Cut Pro X version 10.4.1.
*5 Please use the following software applications:
Cinema RAW Development 2.2 for Windows/macOS
Canon RAW Plugin 2.1 for Avid Media Access (Windows/macOS)
Canon RAW Plugin 1.1 for Final Cut Pro X

From Canon Australia

Installed all of the above. Cards formatted correctly. Can play back with XF Utility 3.3 on Mac, but FCPX not seeing the XF-AVC files.
Has anyone successfully imported the files with FCPX or Premiere?

 

[Dustin Svehlak]

How’d you get FCPX 10.4.1? It doesn’t release until Monday and is apparently necessary for the new firmware update.

 

[Michel]

On the new firmware: in slowmotion mode i can't find the 100p/120p option anymore ??
The XF-AVC bitrate seems to be a bit higher than the mp4 bitrate, probably to include the metadata.

Still don't understand why in timelapse mode you're not able to choose a slower shutter time than 1/25th even when recording 1 frame/30sec.

 

[puredrifting]

On the new firmware: in slowmotion mode i can't find the 100p/120p option anymore ??
The XF-AVC bitrate seems to be a bit higher than the mp4 bitrate, probably to include the metadata.

Still don't understand why in timelapse mode you're not able to choose a slower shutter time than 1/25th even when recording 1 frame/30sec.

Have you tried ingesting and editing it yet?

 

[Fahnon]

I got the firmware on Friday from Canon UK’s site, but i happened to still have the tab open to the US site. They still haven’t made the new firmware available. So weird considering if there was an issue with the firmware itself the other regions would have pulled it I'm sure.

 

[Michel]

Have you tried ingesting and editing it yet?

Not yet maybe on Friday I'll have some time to play around with mp4/XF-AVC

 

[Dustin Svehlak]

I got the firmware on Friday from Canon UK’s site, but i happened to still have the tab open to the US site. They still haven’t made the new firmware available. So weird considering if there was an issue with the firmware itself the other regions would have pulled it I'm sure.

This is a wild guess but I'm wondering if they are just waiting for today's FCPX update to do the USA release?

 

[cpreston]

Apple updates are out.

 

[Dustin Svehlak]

Canon updates are now available!

 

[John Foundas]

What? 4:2:0! Adding insult to injury.

Agreed. It's pretty rediculous.

 

[rob norton]

This has probably been mentioned before but what's with the manual showing 8 bit 4:2:2, is it just a typo?

Check out page 65 of the manual.

 

[Michel]

This has probably been mentioned before but what's with the manual showing 8 bit 4:2:2, is it just a typo?

Check out page 65 of the manual.

https://www.canon.co.uk/support/con...a_camera/eos_c200.aspx?type=manuals&language=

in the new manual all internal codecs on sd are 4:2:0 page 65

 

[puredrifting]

This has probably been mentioned before but what's with the manual showing 8 bit 4:2:2, is it just a typo?

Check out page 65 of the manual.

Hmm...never noticed that before, maybe it is 4:2:2 in 1080? Still 8-bit though so big whoop ;-) Still use Ninja Blade when clients want 1080 green screen and it works great.

 

[rob norton]

Hmm...never noticed that before, maybe it is 4:2:2 in 1080? Still 8-bit though so big whoop ;-) Still use Ninja Blade when clients want 1080 green screen and it works great.

Ninja blade for the win. Have you done any CRL green screen work?

 

[puredrifting]

Ninja blade for the win. Have you done any CRL green screen work?

No, none. I hate shooting green screen and won't do it for my own projects that I am shooting in CRL and the clients who want me to shoot green screen won't deal with CRL, they want Prores. At some point, when I have time, I will shoot a test with green screen and CRL and mess with it but I've been way too busy and it's academic for me anyway. I'm sure it would work great, why wouldn't it?

 

[Ruggerpro]

Just throwing out an experience I had- shot part of a wedding promo, testing out the c200's raw capabilities to see if it's even worth shooting in raw, and threw a green screen shot toward the end, and with almost complete natural lighting, it was super easy to edit in after effects. Now I screwed up shooting 60p, so it was 10 bit, but if I went 12 I feel it would have been a bit better. The green screen shots start at 1:33.
http://vimeo.com/243089726