C100 raw clip

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I re-exported the frame-grab again, and replaced the file in the link above. The frame-grab is a better representation of the the sharpness of the C100 now.

I am using Sony Vegas Pro 11 to process the MTS file, and I think Vegas was getting confused by the 25p image stream embedded in the 50i MTS file. I went in and manually turned off de-interlacing, which fixed the sharpness problem.

Here's the updated link to download a full resolution frame-grab. Download the JPEG file to view at full resolution...

C100 1080 HD Frame-grab with Minor Tweaks
 
Yes, focus was checked and double checked:) But I wasn't performing this shot for resolution so when I opened the aparture I wasn't really checking at what was happening to the DOF.

Any way if resolution is your game I'll upload some more clips. I'm uploading them now.
But bare in mind that I did this test to see a) how the highlights rolled of b) DR but as I said this are the tests that were done
at 320 ISO (low as it could go) and this is where the camera decided to clip the highlights at app 85IRE. I was disappointed by this
and even more so angry at myself that I didn't notice this. I was wondering why the built in waveform monitor wasn't allowing the signal
all the way to the top. I just figured that this is how the monitor was designed:) WRONG:)

So, you can judge the resolution from this and the noise. I also see some chroma aliasing. But you can't judge the highlights rollof as they are harshly clipped way before 110IRE. In one clip I also panned the camera left and right just to get an quick and dirty estimation on the ammount of skew. I must say I'm surprised that there really isn't much. Nice one Canon.
 
James0b57 said:
In order for Canon to release a firmware update to the C300 or C100, they would have to admit to lying about the native hardware capabilities of these cameras. In other words, the cameras are hardware limited to 30p or less according to Canon.
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I don't think Canon ever issued a corporate press release stating that 1080@60p was impossible. What we have heard are off the cuff remarks from lower level sales/technical representatives who may not be fully informed of the underlying engineering.
 
nigelbb said:
I don't think Canon ever issued a corporate press release stating that 1080@60p was impossible. What we have heard are off the cuff remarks from lower level sales/technical representatives who may not be fully informed of the underlying engineering.
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True. I have not read any official press release.
 
I haven't gotten the clips to work in Premiere CS6 without Aliasing. Are any of you guys using Premiere for this? In that case what is your method of interpreting the footage correctly? Thanx
 
Yes, in the Main viewer window there is an option for playback and pause quality, as well as the option to display both or single fields. Change it to "both fields".
 
You say the 24p is wrapped in 60i? This doesn't mean we are going to have to run all the clips through cineform or something to get true 24p are we, like the HV20/HV30? If so, Canon has failed harder than I thought. Please tell me this is native 24p, no BS required.
 
Airwolf said:
You say the 24p is wrapped in 60i? This doesn't mean we are going to have to run all the clips through cineform or something to get true 24p are we, like the HV20/HV30? If so, Canon has failed harder than I thought. Please tell me this is native 24p, no BS required.
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The clip is 25P in a 50i wrapper. The C100 does 24P natively and also 24P in a 60i wrapper and 30P in a 60i wrapper.
 
As I remember they designed C300 with older Digic processor so I guess they has less computational power to lift FPS capacity. Are C100 and C500 using the same Digic?
 
For me, it's just missing the broadcast codec and slomo, and only 720p at that. A Hyderdeck shuttle/Ninja and a GH3 will solve those concerns I think.

I am worried how the internal codec will handle that dr. I have a feeling the lows will be muddy. Hoping to be proved wrong...I don't want to shoot with an external recorder all the time.
 
hawaj said:
As I remember they designed C300 with older Digic processor so I guess they has less computational power to lift FPS capacity. Are C100 and C500 using the same Digic?
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The C100 and the C300 are using a brand new Canon image processor ( first introduced with the C300 at the end of 2011 ) called the DIGIC DV III, which should NOT be confused with the Canon DIGIC III processor used in digital photo cameras.

Considering that both cameras are using the SAME image processor, I suspect that the C100 is limited by the firmware it uses, which means that things could change down the road if Canon decides to add features.

Info on the Canon DIGIC DV III Image Processor
 
TheDingo said:
The C100 and the C300 are using a brand new Canon image processor ( first introduced with the C300 at the end of 2011 ) called the DIGIC DV III, which should NOT be confused with the Canon DIGIC III processor used in digital photo cameras.

Considering that both cameras are using the SAME image processor, I suspect that the C100 is limited by the firmware it uses, which means that things could change down the road if Canon decides to add features.

Info on the Canon DIGIC DV III Image Processor
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Canon DV Digic III is a older than the C300. I have it in my XF105.
 
For those missing the 720p60, don't forget the C100 still does 60i so there's option to do 60i to 60p in After Effects if you use the proper shutter speed. If I had the camera that's what I would use for slow-motion shots I need. It's not as easy, but if you do it right it's probably very comparable to a scaled up 720p60 option. Not exactly the same but probably REALLY close.

Finding it hard to justify the C300 at the moment. Having the LCD stuck on the back without a means to twist it around is one disadvantage but not a ton of other things.

I'm wondering how the 4:2:0 24mb/s codec will affect the low light images since it wouldn't be as adequate to compress the noise you'd get at higher ISO's.
 
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dustylense said:
Canon DV Digic III is a older than the C300. I have it in my XF105.
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Yes, you're correct. I mis-read the Wikipedia entry that states... "The Digic DV III has also been incorporated into the new Canon Cinema EOS line of digital cinema camera, commencing with the C300 in late 2011."
 
...The same DV Digic III chip is used in the C500 to process 2K 10-bit 4:2:2 at 120 fps, so I don't think the C100 is being held back by it's image processor.
 
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