C100: C100 Narrative anyone?

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maximillion

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Im looking at buying either the C100 or BMCC for narrative film work (and other adverts etc on the side) but was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction to view some c100 short film/feature narrative examples on the web. An extensive vimeo/google search has given me 3...2 of which had mixed cameras so hard to really tell whats what.

Thanks guys
 
Narrative, Adverts.

These words imply you have time for separate sound, dinking with ND filters and prime lenses, time to light and want a fat codec for deep colour grading.. which says BMC all over it.

Im about to shoot a feature on a BMC - we have that stuff, seperate sound etc, crew.

For fast corporate jobs and a solo operator the C100 is way way way better!

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Hi maximillion,

In times where Big Screen movies like "Act of Valor" and a lot of 2nd Unit material from "Red Tails" were shot on first generation canon dslr's, I would not be worried about the AVCHD from the C100.

I am located in Austria and shot a feature film on the Sony fs100, here is the trailer: https://vimeo.com/71156658
The film ran on numerous festivals and was released in many cinemas in Austria and the footage looked great on the big screen.

The implementation of the AVCHD Codec in the C100 is even better than with the fs, so I really would not worry about the AVCHD, and if you do, get an Atomos device to pimp it up.

I shot a little Teaser Trailer for our feature film on the C100: https://vimeo.com/94749083

And the first thing I shot with the camera was this little short:https://vimeo.com/67165231

I have no worries about getting cinematic images with the camera, and if it does not look good, it's my fault, not the cameras.

What excites me most about the c100 is it's ergonomics, the dynamic range, the low light capabilities, the Dual Pixel Autofocus and the integrated ND Filters.
 
You won't understand the context of this short but I did shoot it on my C100.

[video]https://vimeo.com/album/2117965/video/89281726[/video]
 
One of my recent projects, not a narrative but a good example of what the c100 is capable of shooting externally to 10 bit dnxhd

 
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morgan_moore said:
Narrative, Adverts.

These words imply you have time for separate sound, dinking with ND filters and prime lenses, time to light and want a fat codec for deep colour grading.. which says BMC all over it.

Im about to shoot a feature on a BMC - we have that stuff, seperate sound etc, crew.

For fast corporate jobs and a solo operator the C100 is way way way better!

S
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Thanks morgan_moore
I find this very interesting as I hear the same thing from everyone who shoots on a BMCC in regards to time, however i Currently shoot on a 5D, always filming in a flat profile for better dynamic range as i grade everything that I do and also I never shoot past ISO 800 as I don't like the noise introduced at higher levels. So I have to light and ND a lot. The BMCC native iso is 800, so in theory shouldn't my shooting style/time be pretty the same as a 5D minus the fact a rig will be slightly bulkier due to an external battery and possibly a monitor add on?

Would love to hear peoples feedback on this. ISO 800 is a technical measurement right? so doesn't that mean 800 ISO on my 5D will be the same brightness near enough on the BMCC


Also, I love the examples that have been posted, some very filmic work. The example I found when initially searching was this: https://vimeo.com/102871670
 
maximillion said:
Also, I love the examples that have been posted, some very filmic work. The example I found when initially searching was this: https://vimeo.com/102871670
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Great find!
Reading the production blog of the film, it perfectly summarizes the C100's pros for narrative filmmaking, deriving from its main use as a documentary-style camera.
Thing is: Rigged out you can shoot a movie with basically any modern camera.
But nothing beats the C-series when going low-profile.
Hell, even the DPAF is an awesome tool for an indie shooter, no matter how often "real pros" say, they'd never use autofocus ;)
 
Thanks Spartacus. I own a C300.

I've used many cameras, I think the C300 is probably one of the best cameras in terms of image quality, workflow and on-set ease of use.

Some images from a project I'm currently working on.

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jm.gardiner said:
Thanks Spartacus. I own a C300.

I've used many cameras, I think the C300 is probably one of the best cameras in terms of image quality, workflow and on-set ease of use.

Some images from a project I'm currently working on.

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The new images and footage from the film look amazing. How does it look blown up? And can the c100 get the same picture quality as the c300? I know people say yes with a ninja but I've noticed the noise levels are dramatically different, the c300 seems to be less noisy in the blue channel, but thats just my experience and probably makes no technical sense as they have the same sensor. Maybe its something to do with the ninja altering noise reduction on the c100 somehow.
 
i love my c100 - but feel the image always looks quite videoey in comparison to the C300/500. it maybe because I have yet to use an external recorder with it - or completely subconscious because i know its a much cheaper camera. but either way - the image always looks a little electronic to me - in comparison to other cameras I have worked with (like the BM).

the c300 images in this thread are gorgeous - as is the Metamoris 4 film - so i'm sure it can be done.
 
maximillion said:
Maybe its something to do with the ninja altering noise reduction on the c100 somehow.
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Group of locals and myself did some testing a while back and we all came to the same conclusion, the external image acquisition from the c100 is superior to the c300's internal codec(they are identical when both recorded externally). There is no other mojo happening behind the scenes and having personally used both of them over the years, I feel confident in saying the images are identical in quality.

A big factor in noise performance is determined by the codec(when disabled in-camera). There are plenty of tests out there that detail the c100's performance in noise characteristics when recording at various bit rates and depths. For optimal noise performance you should be using the ninja's 10 bit options as they do make a considerable difference in quality & push/pull ability in post(the drawback obviously being file size).


Snap said:
i love my c100 - but feel the image always looks quite videoey in comparison to the C300/500.
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I have said this before and will stick by my statement. The most important factor in that "video" look is the person operating the camera. If our exposure/lens choice/composition/lighting/camera movement/story are not inline with the techniques used in professional film making, the end result will almost always be dumbed down too "looks like video".
 
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