Broken Handle

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I live in Portland and I'm looking for a place in town that will repair my HVX 200 handle that broke off. All the mic, zoom, and on /off features work fine. Just need some parts.Is there a place online to buy just parts or is that a factory fix. I'm not cocerned about the warrenty if i fix it on my own.
 
I have also had a broken handle on my HVX 200.

It came all off.

The problem is that the 2 front screws used by Panasonic should be 4mm longer to get better hold in the main magnesium body.
As it is now, the handle may break if you lift the camera with a 4 kg. carbon tripod hanging underneath.

Replacing the screws is a very cheap insurance and may be recomendend.
Use M4 x 10mm with 3 washers underneath. This will double the holding strength.

Something for Jan to tell Panasonicin Japan!

Lorentz
 
LIELD said:
As it is now, the handle may break if you lift the camera with a 4 kg. carbon tripod hanging underneath.
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Probably not the recommended way to pick this combination up!
 
IF you must move a camera on a tripod, grab the camera only to insure it doesn't fall off, and use the other hand to grab and lift the tripod.
 
ozduc said:
Probably not the recommended way to pick this combination up!
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Thats off course true and I learnt it the hard way.

If however Panasonic had used longer screws, it would have been no problem.

Lorentz
 
I'm assuming that you live in Portland Oregon (so do I). I buy ALL of my video equipment from Professional Video and Tape! Period! They're an authorized Panasonic dealer and service center. Last month I bought a HVX-200 from them (third camera from them, Sony z-1 and DVX-100a). I paid only 5k. They'll treat you right the first time! The first HVX-200 I bought was dead out of the factory sealed box and they replaced it the next day! I have the highest opinion of Pro Video and Tape.

Peace,
Bryan
 
LIELD said:
Thats off course true and I learnt it the hard way.

If however Panasonic had used longer screws, it would have been no problem.

Lorentz
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Not necessarily true!
If the screws were longer and didn't break when you tried picking up the camera with 150% extra weight added to the bottom of it, then it could quite have easily stripped the thread out of the body, which would probably cost a lot more to repair. A tripod is meant to hold the weight of a camera..... not the other way 'round.
 
LIELD said:
Thats off course true and I learnt it the hard way.

If however Panasonic had used longer screws, it would have been no problem.

Lorentz
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...So, you're saying that, if Ferrari hadn't put such a powerful motor in the Enzo, then Stefan Erikson wouldn't have smashed into a million pieces by hitting a light pole?
 
Barth Gimble said:
...So, you're saying that, if Ferrari hadn't put such a powerful motor in the Enzo, then Stefan Erikson wouldn't have smashed into a million pieces by hitting a light pole?
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Noooo... The Ferrari was meant to go fast, not meant to hit a pole at high speeds. Get it?
 
The extraction force for a threaded fastener versus its length is not a linear equation. Increasing the insertion length beyond a factor of about 150% of the fasteners diameter adds decreasingly less to the extraction force of the assembly. To really increase the holding power, increase the fasteners diameter and use the finest thread pitch practical.

Or, just don't carry the camera/tripod assembly around by the handle!
 
LIELD said:
Use M4 x 10mm with 3 washers underneath. This will double the holding strength.
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Re: front handle threads: Interesting that you say they're M4, as mine are M3; so 1) not all HVX are the same, 2) you re-drilled your HVX and re-tapped it with an M4 thread, or 3) you are mistaken.

(BTW, the threads to hold the mic-holder in place ARE M4)

Cheers
 
Would be reasonable to assume that the intended use of the cam is to pick it up by its handle when tethered to a heavy tripod?

I don't think so, but I'm sometimes unreasonable. :-)
 
khmuse said:
The extraction force for a threaded fastener versus its length is not a linear equation. Increasing the insertion length beyond a factor of about 150% of the fasteners diameter adds decreasingly less to the extraction force of the assembly. To really increase the holding power, increase the fasteners diameter and use the finest thread pitch practical.
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Wow, I'm impressed. Not just another pretty face. Nice to have you around!
 
ozduc said:
Not necessarily true!
If the screws were longer and didn't break when you tried picking up the camera with 150% extra weight added to the bottom of it, then it could quite have easily stripped the thread out of the body, which would probably cost a lot more to repair. A tripod is meant to hold the weight of a camera..... not the other way 'round.
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The srews doesn't break. The srew has only 3-4 mm hold in the threads in the main body. What happens is that the threads with a chunk of the magnesium body comes off.

My comment is that the construction is so fragile that one may risk to break it off just by lifting it out of a tight fit camera bag.

Spending 50cent one may avoid the problem.

My comment is meant as a serious tip to improve the design.

The load when lifting the tripod was not extreme and should not have been a problem.

Lorentz
 
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