Bluetooth for cam logs, organization, getting a jump on editing

Boa

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Bluetooth in the RED has a variety of promising applications which could prove helpful during photography as well as during post production. On the shoot, a RED camera with Bluetooth could interface with a PDA or laptop to manage various in camera settings, allowing for both organization and remote control. From the PDA or laptop, those settings could then be distributed to other RED cameras on the set. The RED cameras could also monitor each other and possibly even audio recording equipment via Bluetooth to maintain timecode sync.

What might be a promising and innovative use of the Bluetooth interface between the RED and a PDA or laptop (or any other interface between the RED and a PDA or laptop) would be automatic, digital camera logs. Each RED camera operator would input their lens information at their camera (unless the RED will somehow be able to automatically discern this information) and at the end of every take the RED will collect that lens information along with the current camera settings, label it with the timecode just recorded, and send that log to a PDA or laptop. That information would be neatly entered into a database along with the logs from whichever other RED cameras were rolling that take. Imagine: a take with terrible sound, a perfect rack focus, a great performance, and a continuity error is shot. The RED camera sends its camera log to the Script Supervisor's laptop, from where it is distributed to a database management software on the Director's PDA, the 1st AC's PDA, and Sound Recordist's laptop. The Script Sup makes the note on the continuity, the Director note the great performance, the 1st AC notes the perfect rack focus, the Sound Recordist complains about the sound, and then all those notes are updated into the main database and attatched to that one take for the editor. FURTHERMORE, if RED stays closely tied to Apple, perhaps a plugin for Final Cut Pro could be developed to integrate the RED Digital Camera Logs: with a stable timecode, the RED Digital Camera Logs could be automatically paired up with the actual media, allowing the editing software to automatically apply labels and notes to each take on the timecode and even automatically subclip every take. I'd be a happy editor to have all that available to me...

Go RED!
 
mm this is kinda cool. I like the idea of a script supervisor being able to pull info from the camera on set dynamicaly with a 2 way stream so the data stays with the footage.

great idea!
 
I like it. But what aorries me about all thes bluetooth ideas is the short range of bluetooth (30feet (10m)) at best. That's not very far on set, especially with a moving camera.
WiFi may be a better connection, but I like the features proposed.

- Mikko
 
Mikko bluetooth comes in two classes.. class 1 and class 2. Class 2 is the gay 10meter stuff.. but class 1 is the 100meter variant, the Motorola Razr for example uses class 1.
 
Boa said:
Bluetooth in the RED has a variety of promising applications which could prove helpful during photography as well as during post production. On the shoot, a RED camera with Bluetooth could interface with a PDA or laptop to manage various in camera settings, allowing for both organization and remote control. From the PDA or laptop, those settings could then be distributed to other RED cameras on the set. The RED cameras could also monitor each other and possibly even audio recording equipment via Bluetooth to maintain timecode sync.

What might be a promising and innovative use of the Bluetooth interface between the RED and a PDA or laptop (or any other interface between the RED and a PDA or laptop) would be automatic, digital camera logs. Each RED camera operator would input their lens information at their camera (unless the RED will somehow be able to automatically discern this information) and at the end of every take the RED will collect that lens information along with the current camera settings, label it with the timecode just recorded, and send that log to a PDA or laptop. That information would be neatly entered into a database along with the logs from whichever other RED cameras were rolling that take. Imagine: a take with terrible sound, a perfect rack focus, a great performance, and a continuity error is shot. The RED camera sends its camera log to the Script Supervisor's laptop, from where it is distributed to a database management software on the Director's PDA, the 1st AC's PDA, and Sound Recordist's laptop. The Script Sup makes the note on the continuity, the Director note the great performance, the 1st AC notes the perfect rack focus, the Sound Recordist complains about the sound, and then all those notes are updated into the main database and attatched to that one take for the editor. FURTHERMORE, if RED stays closely tied to Apple, perhaps a plugin for Final Cut Pro could be developed to integrate the RED Digital Camera Logs: with a stable timecode, the RED Digital Camera Logs could be automatically paired up with the actual media, allowing the editing software to automatically apply labels and notes to each take on the timecode and even automatically subclip every take. I'd be a happy editor to have all that available to me...

Go RED!

What else would be nice is if there was a button you could hit when you have a bad take and on the database there's a column where a symbol is marked saying it's a bad take..... So in post you can disregard that take.

Or if one of the other crew members says it's a bad take (audio, camera, ect.), it gets marked as a "check for usage" type of mark.
 
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