Birger Mount

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mkfotos.com said:
Don't forget that Tamron, Sigma, Cosina, and probably others have reverse engineered Canon's protocols, yet Canon leaves them in peace. Why? Because ultimately it strengthens their position, their ecosystem.
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I respect what all you guys are saying, but that does not mean that patents are not being leased or licensed in those cases. I have seen an interview with Erik where he specifically says that he has had to reverse engineer, because Canon has not made their design protocols privy to him. Also, The Red One is not in the same market as the 5D/7D. I do agree, Mark, that the culprit to the delays are more likely fabrication related.
 
eagle_eye said:
I respect what all you guys are saying, but that does not mean that patents are not being leased or licensed in those cases. I have seen an interview with Erik where he specifically says that he has had to reverse engineer, because Canon has not made their design protocols privy to him. Also, The Red One is not in the same market as the 5D/7D. I do agree, Mark, that the culprit to the delays are more likely fabrication related.
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And this is exactly what these other companies have done as well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF_lens_mount

Look in the section on "History"

It has no matter if the Red One is in the same category as the 5D/7D, I never mentioned those cameras. The point is, why would Canon allow the Birger EF adapter for the Red One and not the AF100 or FS100? Clearly that would be the FIRST item a lawyer would bring up because Canon is no doubt well aware of the Birger adapter. It's been out for a long time and used in professional capacities for a long time.

I very much doubt Canon has anything to do with the delay. But then again, not all businesses act logically, so who knows! :)
 
Fellas, there is no legal entanglement here. Others factors cause delays, but not that.

And sometimes it is not the fault of the in-between company. Panasonic or Sony on one side, Canon on the other, little Birger in the middle. All must play nice. Sometimes it is technical, sometimes it is political, sometimes it is a little bit of both.

No matter, Birger mounts should be arriving soon.
 
IMHO this thread should be closed, it serves no further purpose but speculation and frustration. i stopped following the development of this mount months ago because it does not matter how much it's talked about, it's clear that it's development and launch will be done on birger's schedule and nothing else can affect that. on one side i dislike how announcements and expectations were handled, on the other i feel for what hurtles the young company must be going through. Either way it's pointless for this thread to stay up. when they are 100% irrevocably certain of when they will launch, they should start a new thread with that info and life can go on from there. those who bought an af100 with an expectation of this mount, well, you took a gamble, and it turned sour. but in the end you can't blame one company for the delays of another

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In my humble opinion, it is your choice to come here and read the thread, and I feel the thread is an important place to for those of us awaiting the mount to talk and listen. If you don't want to read the thread, don't click on it. Thanks for the info Mitch.
 
eagle eye, as you may or may not have seen in other threads here, these forums strive to stay on topic to the OP, non-hostile, and overall beneficial to everyone using them. it is obvious the OP has been discussed to it's end, the only remaining info can only come from one source: birger. of late more heated words have been building here, and i see no other direction for it to go being that there isn't anything left of the OP to discuss. the specs haven't changed, the af100 hasn't changed, birger hasn't changed, the only thing that has changed is the frustration level, so what else do you expect to talk about other than defending a position you or someone else might have for or against birger/panasonic?

let birger/whoever start a new thread called "birger mount available as of XX/XX/XXXX" or "birger mount now available" when they are able to do so.

in the meantime it seems people will be looking to RR and any other alternatives that pop up in the time it takes for birger to launch their product.

either way it calls for new threads, not dead ones

you're entitled to your opinion same as mine and everyone else, but i'll buy the first round to keep it civil. (i'll be in your particular city later next month)

cheerios,
 
imdjay said:
i'll buy the first round to keep it civil. (i'll be in your particular city later next month)

cheerios,
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It's on Darren! Hopefully we'll be toasting to the joy of a brand new Birger mount. I just broke out my Glidecam V-16 for a shoot next week, and I couldn't help but think to myself how much I would love that auto-focus feature. Very awkward balancing the rig and keeping focus (I don't own a follow focus). I'm sorry if I come off as hostile, just very eager to get my hands on that mount.
 
i'm very eager for you to get your hands on as well so as to let us know if it lives up to the buildup. looks like i'll actually be in the vegas area and not cali for this particular shoot, but each month comes a new destination, cali is inevitable at some point
 
Would have attended had I known sooner. Day off and just got back from a fishing trip. I'm sure there will be some good feedback posted here.
 
Looking forward to reading any reports on the birger mount which if it doesn't appear soon might be called the Yeti mount or the Nessie mount.. I thought I could make the show tonight but the long hand of the office reached out and pulled me back into the chair at the desk.
 
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Looking forward to reading any reports on the birger mount which if it doesn't appear soon might be called the Yeti mount or the Nessie mount.. I thought I could make the show tonight but the long hand of the office reached out and pulled me back into the chair at the desk.
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Really nothing new. But ill post a video shortly
 
Ditto. I have had the adapter on preorder for sometime. Im anxious to hear if this is worth the wait. My guess is that it will be.
 
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