Best Western Film...

John_Hudson said:
Damn MAv ! You can;t quote me out of context like that !

Hitch is the master and a primary influence on my personal heroes (De Palma, Tarantino)


John, I am still trying to figure out this quote thing....

I think you should put your chaps on, your hat, your six guns and sit down to watch at least one western a week. Make it a Friday night in honor of "Rawhide" Clint Eastwood's first job. Then write a review on Saturday morning. We will all comment, you will get educated on westerns, and the world will become complete:thumbsup:
 
Blaine said:
Hey John, Last of the Mohicans was originally on my list. It's a very borderline call with me as to whether it's a western or not.
Definitely not a western. The entirety of the story takes place in what is presently the state of New York. Which, of course, is why we shot in North Carolina. Neither of which are in any way, 'the West.'

My list, in nor particular order...

The Outlaw Josey Wales
Once Upon a Time in the West
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
For a Few Dollars More
The Searchers
Silverado
Unforgiven
The Ballad of Cat Ballou
Dances with Wolves
The Wild Bunch
 
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Sad Max said:
Definitely not a western. The entirety of the story takes place in what is presently the state of New York. Which, of course, is why we shot in North Carolina. Neither of which are in any way, 'the West.'
While I can agree with that (I didn't include it in my list), tell me where this movie comes off having the stones to call itself a western...

Plot Outline: Set during "The Genpei Wars" at the end of the 1100s, the Minamoto and Taira gangs face off in a town named Yuda, while a deadly gunman (Ito Hideaki) comes to the aid of the townsfolk.

The name of that movie? Sukiyaki Western Django. You don't get much further east than that.

And add to that, Australian "westerns" like The Proposition, which I'd wholeheartedly call a western...
 
Blaine said:
While I can agree with that (I didn't include it in my list), tell me where this movie comes off having the stones to call itself a western...

Plot Outline: Set during "The Genpei Wars" at the end of the 1100s, the Minamoto and Taira gangs face off in a town named Yuda, while a deadly gunman (Ito Hideaki) comes to the aid of the townsfolk.

The name of that movie? Sukiyaki Western Django. You don't get much further east than that.
Well, Japanese films/books/magazines/t-shirts/songs/ads/user manuals have a long tradition of using English words in meaningless and out-of-context sorts of ways. For all we know, the word 'western' just got dropped into the title totally at random.

Or, maybe the town of Yuda is in Western Japan.

Um...how deadly could a twelfth-century 'gunman' be, anyway, with a matchlock weapon that fires, what, maybe twice per minute on a good day...?

Blaine said:
And add to that, Australian "westerns" like The Proposition, which I'd wholeheartedly call a western...
'The Proposition' kicked ass. Did it take place in Western Australia...? That would be good enough, for me...
 
Sad Max said:
'The Proposition' kicked ass. Did it take place in Western Australia...? That would be good enough, for me...
I'd love to see more movies like The Proposition come out of Australia. You are right...it did kick ass.
 
Sad Max said:
Heck, I'd like to see more movies like that, come from anywhere...
:beer: :beer: :beer:

I've got to update my favorite westerns as I hadn't seen The Proposition when I submitted my list. So the new list is:

01 Tombstone
02 The Outlaw Josie Wales
03 Tom Horn
04 Once Upon a Time in the West
05 High Plains Drifter
06 Unforgiven
07 The Proposition
08 Jeremiah Johnson
09 Open Range
10 The Great Silence


Honorable Mention:
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Quigley Down Under
Django
 
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'Quigly Down Under' is great fun.

I usually think of a 'western' as being one by virtue of location, but this leads me to realize that something can be a western by virtue of theme or character or visual texture, too.

micro-satori
 
Hudson, start your western journey with...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WI2AZb04HAc

The John Ford/John Wayne team is one of the all-time best cinema pairings...
Up there with:
the John Huston/Bogart team
the Frank Capra/Jimmy Stewart team
the Hitchcock/Jimmy Stewart team
the Hitchcock/Cary Grant team
the Spielberg/Tom Hanks team
-and-
the Robert Zemeckis/Tom Hanks team


Trust me...

you wanna catch any and all the Ford/Duke collaborations.
 
Blazing Saddles is #1 on the callaghan all-time comedy list...by far the funniest film ever shot.

I don't consider it a western tho...no more than I would consider Young Frankenstein a horror.
 
Perhaps that's why I'll accept it as a cross platfrom movie, because it is #51 on my list of comedies...:beer: I only list movies under on category which is sometimes a problem. Yes, I list Blazing Saddles as a comedy, fairly funny (I consider Young Frankenstein to be Mel Brooks' masterpiece), but I can see where some movies can fit into several categories.
 
Shane
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Grew up on this film, every rainy day...)
Once upon a time in the West
Butch and Sundance
Searchers
OK Corral. (I liked it. sue me)

And then the of courses: (for me)
A fistful of Dollars
A few Dollars more
Good the Bad and the Ugly or the better much longer original Il Buono, il brutto, il cattivo. (Yes i watched it in italian.)

Edited to include:
Dances with Wolves
Cold Mountain
Unforgiven

And the future:
Seraphim Falls (linky)
 
Blaine said:
That's the thing The Outlaw Josie Wales wasn't short on. A sampling:

"There's another old saying, Senator: Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining"

"I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet. "

"Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy."

Lone Watie: I'm gettin' better at sneaking up on you like this. Only an Indian can do something like this.
Josey Wales: That's what I figured.
Lone Watie: You figured?
Josey Wales: Only an Indian could do something like that.
[Lone Watie hears a gun cock behind him; turns and sees Moonlight]
Lone Watie: It's not right; this damn woman doing something like this to me. I used to have power. Now old age is creeping up on me.
Josey Wales: More like old habits than old age.

"Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes."

Lone Watie: [realizes Josey has snuck up behind and pulled a gun on him] They said a man could get rich on reward money if he could kill you.
Josey Wales: Seems like you was looking to gain some money here.
Lone Watie: Actually, I was looking to gain an edge. I thought you might be someone who would sneak up behind me with a gun.
Josey Wales: Where'd you ever get an idea like that? Besides it ain't supposed to be easy to sneak up behind an Indian
Lone Watie: I'm an Indian, all right; but here in the nation they call us the "civilized tribe". They call us "civilized" because we're easy to sneak up on. White men have been sneaking up on us for years.

There are so many more it's just not possible to include them all. If you've never seen The Outlaw Josie Wales, do yourself a favor and watch Clint Eastwood at the top of his form. :thumbsup:

For a full listing of some great quotes:
http://yoursay.imdb.com/title/tt0075029/quotes

The second best, quote-wise, would probably be Tombstone.

Blaine- I love your "Outlaw Josey Wales" quotes! I remember them all and very often my brothers and I will re-quote the movie, over and over. I loved that link...one of my favorite quotes from that movie:
Josey Wales: When I get to likin' someone, they ain't around long.
Lone Watie: I notice when you get to DISlikin' someone they ain't around for long neither. That old indian cracks me up every time I watch the movie.

My list:
1. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
2. Fist Full of Dollars.
3. For a Few Dollars More.
4. The Outlaw Josey Wales.
5. Once Upon a Time In the West
6. Unforgiven.
7. The Searchers
8. High Plains Drifter.
9. Hang 'em High.
10. High Noon


Honorable Mention;
True Grit (I don't like leaving this off the initial list. But hey, theres only room for 10 on there)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Dances With Wolves
Stagecoach
Rio Bravo
The Proposition (I just saw this two weeks ago. GREAT GREAT flick.)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
Silverado
Young Guns
Magnificent Seven
[SIZE=+0]Shane[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+0]I'm sure I'm missing quite a few but I am pretty satisfied with my list. I have a biased towards the first three on my list. As a kid, I saw the first 3 so many times that I just fell in love with them. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=+0]As brilliant as John Ford/Wayne were together (I love Fords beautiful imagery), I grew up favoring the Spaghetti Western. And all 3 of these flicks are fantastic. Especially if you watch them on a cold or damp Saturday afternoon while eating a big bowl of beef stew. [/SIZE]

Rick


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