soursteezle14
Member
I shoot mostly inside interviews and I'm wondering what picture style would work best. I just tried the cinestyle and it didn't seem nearly as sharp as neutral. Any ideas?
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Best picture style for T2i interviews
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The picture style should be determined based on the desired look of the particular project, and personal taste. It has nothing to do with indoor interviews vs. ______.
There are two schools of thought, and there are merits to each. You simply need to figure out which one works better for you and your preferred workflow.
1) Get your look in-camera. This is the old standard, tried and true. On a high-budget film, shot on actual film, the film stock is chosen based on the look that it brings to the image (saturated vs. neutral, grainy vs. fine, etc.). Gel filters are used on lights to affect color temperature. Glass filters are used to get particular looks in-camera, and color correction and color grading are only minor tweaks in post. Some exceptions may be in day-for-night and other extreme shifts.
2) Shoot flat, grade later. While this isn't techincally a new idea, it found a huge following with the advent of DSLR video. This is where picture styles come into play, and many have been seeking the ideal picture style that maximizes dynamic range and allows for a color correction/grading post-process that starts from scratch with saturation and contrast, and then whatever other grading effects are desired.
There's something to be said for the old standard, as there's a really nice art form in using filters, lenses, and whatever else is at your disposal in production to craft your image with light instead of software.
There are two schools of thought, and there are merits to each. You simply need to figure out which one works better for you and your preferred workflow.
1) Get your look in-camera. This is the old standard, tried and true. On a high-budget film, shot on actual film, the film stock is chosen based on the look that it brings to the image (saturated vs. neutral, grainy vs. fine, etc.). Gel filters are used on lights to affect color temperature. Glass filters are used to get particular looks in-camera, and color correction and color grading are only minor tweaks in post. Some exceptions may be in day-for-night and other extreme shifts.
2) Shoot flat, grade later. While this isn't techincally a new idea, it found a huge following with the advent of DSLR video. This is where picture styles come into play, and many have been seeking the ideal picture style that maximizes dynamic range and allows for a color correction/grading post-process that starts from scratch with saturation and contrast, and then whatever other grading effects are desired.
There's something to be said for the old standard, as there's a really nice art form in using filters, lenses, and whatever else is at your disposal in production to craft your image with light instead of software.
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gonzo_entertainment
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Doing serious grading on interviews is just silly. I'd shoot neutral then lightly grade.
Samuel H
Major Contributor
Yes, but I'd still prefer Flaat, I find it easier to grade than Neutral: reassigning contrast (with a simple curve) is a lot easier than trying to get nice skin tones out of that dead-looking Neutral profile (well, at least that's my opinion, but as I've always said my color grading skills are very limited).
ROCKMORE
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I'd work with cinestyle, there is just more detail to grade with. Also reduces the risk of aliasing and moire to some extent adding the contrast later.
Of course neutral will look sharper out of the camera, and i admit I still use it when I don't want to work as hard in post, but at the end of the day cinestyle has saved many clipped shots for me, and recovered details in shadows a few times as well.
My camera is set to cinestye 0,-4,-1.0 both in movie and stills and I use neutral about 2% of the time.
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Not sure if I remember correctly, but I liked Faithful better than Neutral for skin tones?
I thought the tomes looked great there, just slighly lower stauration and contrast. That would be easier to grade quickly. I could have that flipped with Neutral through.
Best,
Michael
I thought the tomes looked great there, just slighly lower stauration and contrast. That would be easier to grade quickly. I could have that flipped with Neutral through.
Best,
Michael
ROCKMORE
Veteran
If you have controlled soft lighting which would be a normal situation for sit down interior interviews, I agree Neutral may be better for skin tones, but if it's run & gun interviews cinestyle can really pull your A$$ out of the fire if you have one shot to get it right.
Samuel H
Major Contributor
I prefer the skin tones of Portrait (which Flaat inherits)
edit: quick picture styles color test: https://vimeo.com/47394255
edit: quick picture styles color test: https://vimeo.com/47394255
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Yes, I have been shooting Cinestyle 90% of the time. I love the look on the LCD and the histogram in camera. Plenty of latitude for a concert shoot that usually blows out both ends, the black (unlit backdrop/curtain) and the whites. High contrast.
I know Philip Bloom and another tester on his site have dissed Cinestyle, preferring Marvel Cine in their Canon's. I just downloaded that yesterday, have not tried it yet.
I also have two of Simon's Flaat profiles loaded, 10 & 12 I think? That is in the T4i.
I just bought a 5D3, have not had a chance to test there yet.
Thanks!
Michael
rossfinnie
Member
Yeah, I use Faithful for that sort of thing, with the saturation and contrast turned down a couple of notches. Unless you've got a fully calibrated monitor, I don't trust the camera's screen to judge the colour and tone straight from the camera.
soursteezle14
Member
^ Can you send me a link of where I could get the cinema picture style? I really like it!