I think that the whole don't know 'em so I can't write 'em thing is rooted in the fact that you can make up anything you like about Zeta Reticulans without worry of contradiction or insult, but doing that with members of other ethnicities - if you're writing them as people rooted in cultures specific to those ethnicities - can come off very badly indeed if you screw it up.
Bechdel test for women in film
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Batutta
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Hey not to get off track, but is the oil spill affecting your production?
Zak Forsman
Major Contributor
actually.... if you look at whose breath is visible and whose isn't, you can tell which one is alive and which one is.... THE THING!!!!!!!!!.
Batutta
Major Contributor
Isn't there an alternate ending shot too where it fades up on a dog running across the tundra?
I don't know...remember when that first guy got absorbed, then ran out into the snow and was kneeling there hissing at everybody, before getting burned? His breath steamed in the cold air. So the visible-breath test may not necessarily be where it's at...
/geekery
Yes. I've seen it.
Although I'm not entirely sure that was really a dog...
Baton Rouge is far enough from the Gulf Coast that we're unlikely to see any direct effects from the spill.
/geekery
Battuta said:
Yes. I've seen it.
Although I'm not entirely sure that was really a dog...
Baton Rouge is far enough from the Gulf Coast that we're unlikely to see any direct effects from the spill.
Jawa Ex Machina
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Is it me, or does she look like she could be Jeff Goldblum's daughter?
Jawa Ex Machina
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I heard somewhere that's unintentional. It was just because of how the set happened to be lit that you can only see one of them breathing.
HorseFilms
Look ma no hands
Agreed. I'm not going to hold my breath, though.
ZazaCast
Major Contributor
OMG... just what we need...another 'test'.
You know, there's a reason men usually die before their wives....because they want to!
If that young lady would like to see more chick flicks, it's a free country, she's welcome to write & produce as many as she'd like. I also hear there's a 48 hour "Thelma & Louise" marathon playing on the Lifetime Channel this weekend!
:engel017:
You know, there's a reason men usually die before their wives....because they want to!
If that young lady would like to see more chick flicks, it's a free country, she's welcome to write & produce as many as she'd like. I also hear there's a 48 hour "Thelma & Louise" marathon playing on the Lifetime Channel this weekend!
:engel017:
Falcon got a chance to kick butt in Cap just recently; I agree that his "powers" do suck though. I haven't read Panther in a while but (IMO) Hudlin did justice to the character.
Also in Geoff Johns Avengers "Red Zone" arc, a few years ago, he did the Panther justice as well. I highly recommend it, we see the Panther go mano-a-mano with the Red Skull.
I think Bendis does a good job w/Luke Cage (all right he's married to Jessica Jones) but he doesn't make Luke useless,weak, or a sidekick.
I'm twisting my head here trying to think of a black villian in the Marvel universe. (don't say Man-Ape).
HorseFilms
Look ma no hands
George Romero features strong female and black characters in several of his movies. He's usually pretty good about not flaunting it, too. They're just there.
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
Veteran
I think the old Japanese theater had it right, when men played women's roles as well.
I kid, I kid.
I kid, I kid.
Nathyn
Low Budget Ninja
All their black characters are pretty decent, just underused. Also you know the only black and white comic Marvel ever did aside from their manga line and the old school Conan, was a black superhero comic that featured most of the black heroes. It had the potential to be the black Avengers. You know what Marvel does? They make the comic black and white. This is a true story, research "The Crew". To this day people still want a black avengers team after seeing the line up that Christopher Priest brought.
# Junta - Daniel "Danny" Vincent, freelance intelligence agent and con man.
# Justice - Josiah "Josiah X" Bradley, son of Isaiah Bradley the black Captain America.
# Kasper Cole - Kevin "Kasper" Cole, the White Tiger is heir in waiting to the Black Panther.
# War Machine
So they have a Justice, basically a Black Captain America, who should've taken Capts place when Capt was shot. He's one of the only few people with stable super soldier serum running through his blood I believe (ironically all of people who have stable Super Soldier serum in them are black).
A Black Panther in wait.
An Iron Man (War Machine)
and a secret agent.
If you add Power Man, Monica Rambeau and Night Thrasher that's one hell of a team. Will you ever see it? No, and if you do, it won't be in color. LOL. Could use another chick though.
-Nate
Jawa Ex Machina
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They're not remaking it anymore. It's now a prequel about the norwegians.The Thing is awesome...I can't believe they're remaking it and that Ron Moore is involved....Of course it was a remake itself...oh, well.
Billy Pilgrim
Stye in my eye
I'd like to modify this a bit.
1. Is there even one gay character with a name?
2. Are they something other than the hilarious sidekick to a romantic comedy heroine, or a serial killer?
3. Do they give ANYONE a makeover, or brutally murder them?
Jawa Ex Machina
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In all fairness though, this is a problem that's really easily fixed.
Solution: Make more films with female protagonists.
If a movie has a male protagonist, all female characters with names is by definition a supporting character or less. In order for two supporting characters to have a dialogue in a scene of their own, they'd have to talk about something relevant to the plot or the main character or both. Otherwise, that scene wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
It's only natural that almost any movie with a male protagonist wouldn't pass this "test".
Without actually checking this in advance, I'm willing to bet five bucks it's just as hard to find a movie about a female protagonist, where two men with names talk to eachother about something other than women.
Solution: Make more films with female protagonists.
If a movie has a male protagonist, all female characters with names is by definition a supporting character or less. In order for two supporting characters to have a dialogue in a scene of their own, they'd have to talk about something relevant to the plot or the main character or both. Otherwise, that scene wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
It's only natural that almost any movie with a male protagonist wouldn't pass this "test".
Without actually checking this in advance, I'm willing to bet five bucks it's just as hard to find a movie about a female protagonist, where two men with names talk to eachother about something other than women.
Jawa Ex Machina
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Wait, are there a lot of gay serial killer movies around?