PerroneFord
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Re-encoding them to what? ProRes is a codec, not a program. And you'd need a Mac to make it anyway.
Tell me what you're trying to do, and I might be able to help.
Basics of Video Shooting
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Re-encoding them to what? ProRes is a codec, not a program. And you'd need a Mac to make it anyway.
Tell me what you're trying to do, and I might be able to help.
steventimothy
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I agree that Apple laptops and FCP 3 of that vintage are much (much) faster for video editing than a comparable PC laptop, equipped say with Premier Pro 3.
I just think that he's going to have trouble with his particular configuration, with any PC editing software, whether he uses H.264 or the pro-res; particularly if you start adding music, sound effects, try to use Magic Bullet or any other video effects.
Once you add a video effect, such as colour correction, that effect doesn't "know" you're using pro-res or not, it just sees the video as a big RGB uncompressed file, so the processing power required is big.
i'm not really sure what you guys are talking about..im a bit confused..when i shoot the clips on my camera i have a file to edit, or encode or what ever..lets say i use adobe premier to edit or some other program..does it cause problems when converting the files or like editing? i have no money to save up for a better computer. I have a laptop (4GBram, 150 HD, Intel Core Duo) and i also have a PC 5 years old (less than 1 GB Ram, 200HD)
and what do all these terms mean?
h.264 and ProResLT
im really into making short movies and clips like the one above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSTNgdt1L9E
i hope i can do something like this with my laptop since i saved up 2000 to get the Canon 7D thinking i wont need anything else. Now i don't how i can come up with 1000$ to upgrade my laptop.
and what do all these terms mean?
h.264 and ProResLT
im really into making short movies and clips like the one above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSTNgdt1L9E
i hope i can do something like this with my laptop since i saved up 2000 to get the Canon 7D thinking i wont need anything else. Now i don't how i can come up with 1000$ to upgrade my laptop.
steventimothy
Well-known member
I'm afraid you have a steep learning curve ahead. Your rig will probably allow you to edit the videos as you want, using Adobe Premiere Pro. You'll find out for yourself very soon whether it will be practical or not.
CS4 might bog down your laptop, you might want to try CS3 instead (that's the version of Ppro.)
The 7D encodes its video files in the H.264 codec, which is a codec designed basically to compress high-res files down without degrading their quality too much. There's no way that a DSLR like the 7D could store raw files or uncompressed video files, the bandwidth and storage for HD are ridiculous. The 7D uses this codec because it produces good quality for the amount of storage on the memory card.
However, it's not a good editing codec, a lot of processing is required. So many (most) people are using the ProRes Lt codec, which is a much better editing codec. So the file has to be transcoded from H.264 to the ProRes codec before any editing can commence. This tends to happen in (much) less than realtime for HD. You will need to do this, there's no way your computer will play back H.264 files native.
This is why you probably need more hard drive space, or you'll be doing a lot of condensing and deleting as you go. At the very least, you might want to consider a 500 GB external drive (USB-2), you are going to want a backup of your video files somewhere. A drive like this will give you the ability to store your native H.264 camera files and the transcoded pro-res files.
Go to the Adobe Premiere Pro forums to get opinions on editing with that software on your computer, tell them the specs and the camera and what you plan to do.
CS4 might bog down your laptop, you might want to try CS3 instead (that's the version of Ppro.)
The 7D encodes its video files in the H.264 codec, which is a codec designed basically to compress high-res files down without degrading their quality too much. There's no way that a DSLR like the 7D could store raw files or uncompressed video files, the bandwidth and storage for HD are ridiculous. The 7D uses this codec because it produces good quality for the amount of storage on the memory card.
However, it's not a good editing codec, a lot of processing is required. So many (most) people are using the ProRes Lt codec, which is a much better editing codec. So the file has to be transcoded from H.264 to the ProRes codec before any editing can commence. This tends to happen in (much) less than realtime for HD. You will need to do this, there's no way your computer will play back H.264 files native.
This is why you probably need more hard drive space, or you'll be doing a lot of condensing and deleting as you go. At the very least, you might want to consider a 500 GB external drive (USB-2), you are going to want a backup of your video files somewhere. A drive like this will give you the ability to store your native H.264 camera files and the transcoded pro-res files.
Go to the Adobe Premiere Pro forums to get opinions on editing with that software on your computer, tell them the specs and the camera and what you plan to do.
Well i edit on an XPS dell laptop (not the best editing rig i know, but its served me ok for my last 7 projects and its all i got until budget permits). The last 7 i did were all 720p avi files from my D90.
I just got my 7D on friday, and shot some video, my laptop could BARELY play these files, lol. I did render a few of the files to .wmv files but it took like an hour for like 3 mins worth, and actually trying to edit, it struggled with the clips so much that i could not see audio and video move without jerks making it impossible ot edit.
I use sony vegas 9, is there a program that i can use to convert all my files first? Then import those files into vegas?
If i understand the conversation here, once converted to a more familiar format, the editing software and hardware can edit it much easier?