Avatar - James Cameron Returns! (Spoilers in thread, obviously!)

I guess what you're saying is that Avatar should win the People's Choice Award, right? While the film that excels most in story, character, cinematography, etc. should win Best Picture.

If so, I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
More precisely, the film that the voting members of the Academy find excels most in story, character, cinematography, etc should win Best Picture. Although of course there are other influences upon the members' votes.
 
Actually, Max, the film that the voting members of the Academy find excels in those areas WILL win Best Picture, that's how it works.

But should and will can be very different things.
 
stephenmick said:
I guess what you're saying is that Avatar should win the People's Choice Award, right? While the film that excels most in story, character, cinematography, etc. should win Best Picture.

If so, I'd buy that for a dollar.
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yep, something along those lines.

please send the dollar to the following bank acc.......
 
J.R. Hudson said:
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Avatar is leaps and bounds a much killer film than any of these pieces of crap films below; no matter the box office receipts.


1 Avatar Fox $552,797,000
2 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen $402,111,870
3 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $301,959,197
4 The Twilight Saga: New Moon Sum. $293,187,400
5 Up BV $293,004,164
6 The Hangover WB $277,322,503
7 Star Trek Par. $257,730,019
8 The Blind Side WB $234,027,000
9 Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel
10 Monsters Vs. Aliens P/DW $198,351,526
11 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs Fox $196,573,705
12 Sherlock Holmes WB $191,564,000
13 X-Men Origins: Wolverine Fox $179,883,157
14 Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian Fox $177,243,721
15 2012 Sony $164,767,722
16 The Proposal BV $163,958,031
17 Fast and Furious Uni. $155,064,265
18 G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra Par. $150,201,498
19 Paul Blart: Mall Cop Sony $146,336,178
20 Taken Fox $145,000,989
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Only because thr tickets are so expensive today.

Back in 1940 when they showed "Gone with the Wind"
the average ticket was less than 24 cent.
so this has to be taken in context and adjusted.

Here is a Adjusted Gross list

1 Gone with the Wind $1,485,028,000
2 Star Wars $1,309,179,000
3 The Sound of Music $1,046,753,000
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial $1,042,629,400
5 The Ten Commandments $962,850,000

26 Avatar $559,512,300

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
 
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I don't see that the measure of a film is the box-office take, outside the narrow commercial interest of the people who are making the money on it.
 
J.R. Hudson said:
I have not made my pick for the best of the year just yet .... coming to mind are the Basterds and The Hurt Locker
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John, totally agree on Basterds. This is my pick for best of 2009- its a timeless movie. Its a movie that will age very well compared to the other contenders. Avatar deserves Cinematography IMO, due to the Innovative use of 3D Cinematography, which is a different animal to conventional cinematography. It was a fully realized 3D Cinematography experience not only in the action sequences but also on the narrative, dramatic sequences.

Best director I would give to Tarantino, but it is again a matter of innovative Directing versus Masterful direction- Cameron's direction was a breakthrough for 3D FIlms, and Tarantino's direction was a Masterful Auteur film that excelled in the conventional aspects of film: acting, dialogue, conventional cinematography and editing, as well as soundtrack. I can understand Cameron winning this, but would like to see Tarantino winning. Basterds is his second best film to date, right on par with Pulp Fiction.
 
Honestly, I felt that Avatar was a great fun movie but I couldn't understand how it won the Golden Globes for Best Director and Best Film.

I thought that Hurt Locker should have walked away with both those awards. The way Kathryn Bigelow was able to bring out as well as capture the emotions and the chaos...amazing.
 
I absolutely LOVE Avatar, but I agree. The Hurt Locker should've won, and should win Best Picture and Best Director at the Oscars.
 
I finally got to see Avatar this weekend, so I'll throw in my $0.02:

Fantastic movie overall, but a few issues. I found the story to be predictable at times. At the end, as soon as they laid him down in front of the tree, I was shouting out what was going to happen before it happened. "They're going to cut to a close-up of his eyes, they open, and then blackout and credits." Hey, what do you know, exactly what happened.

I saw it in the RealD 3D, which I think is a great system. The entire scene didn't pop off the screen, which was kind of nice, rather, it created depth behind the foreground: making the screen almost like a window. There were times, however, where I felt the 3D was distracting. There were times where it felt like one "eye" was out of focus, or they were just not aligned. The shallow depth of field was also distracting because it created 3D blobs out of anything in the background. I would have like to see a depth of field similar to the human eye.

A great movie with outstanding visual effects.
 
Postmaster said:
Only because thr tickets are so expensive today.

Back in 1940 when they showed "Gone with the Wind"
the average ticket was less than 24 cent.
so this has to be taken in context and adjusted.

Here is a Adjusted Gross list

1 Gone with the Wind $1,485,028,000
2 Star Wars $1,309,179,000
3 The Sound of Music $1,046,753,000
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial $1,042,629,400
5 The Ten Commandments $962,850,000

26 Avatar $559,512,300

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
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Good point Postmaster. When looking at the Top 20 Adjusted, it really shows a much higher substance level with the films. I may not agree with the following being the best films ever, but I also cannot argue if someone else thinks they are.


1 Gone with the Wind
2 Star Wars
3 The Sound of Music
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
5 The Ten Commandments
6 Titanic
7 Jaws Uni.
8 Doctor Zhivago
9 The Exorcist
12 The Empire Strikes Back
13 Ben-Hur
15 The Sting
16 Raiders of the Lost Ark
18 The Graduate
 
It's official, the studio released a press release today saying Avatar has passed Titanic for worldwide sales and is the #1 highest grossing movie, unadjusted for inflation of course. $2B is right around the corner.
 
I guess that I'm probably just reiterating my claim to title of Master of the F*cking Obvious, but last night I got to thinking that maybe part of Avatar's success derives from the fact that during bad economic times people historically flock to escapist entertainment, and that Avatar is about as escapist as entertainment can possibly be...
 
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