Apple dumps Intel and shows Final Cut Pro on new Mac with Apple CPU !
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ahalpert
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I think the new Apples are really exciting, although I don't see this release changing my upgrade schedule. What I have now works for now. I also wouldn't be surprised if the new system had bugs or at least requires further optimization.
In a few years, I look forward to getting the 16" version. Probably pre-owned.
Nevertheless - cool stuff
In a few years, I look forward to getting the 16" version. Probably pre-owned.
Nevertheless - cool stuff
indiawilds
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Will look forward to. I would have bought if apple had launched 16 inch MBP instead of the 13. I have to think about my workflow.
mikahawkins
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Seems like Intel is falling behind in the CPU race.
puredrifting
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I don't know any pro editor who would touch a 13" MBP. The screen is simply too small for editing really.
Clermond
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sure it is to small but you can easily fix that. Attach a big screen in the office or use an 12" iPad via sidecar on location. Works great. I ordered the 13" maxed out MBP for the playback of Canon's 10bit 422 H265. I don't want to wait until May until the 16" comes out. But 1st of all I think it's time to hurry to sell the 15" MBP. I still have the option to sell the 13" later and go for a 16". In the office I still have an 2019 iMac but I can imagine to go for a 16"MBP + 27" screen later.
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I recently fell in love with the 13" for in field use. It is just that little bit smaller, meaning it is just that much easier to move around with a smaller crew. Then I can use an external monitor at home if I need to edit or review footage.
Helps for file transferring in the field, and quick footage review, but is not as good for serious dedicated DIT or editing, as Pure says.
But yeah, I am considering going to 13". 13" of 1050p HD is still plenty for essential footage review.
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I think there are plenty of video pros and freelancers that can make use of the 13" size. Think of it as a file transfer hub with a full HD 13" screen and enough power to string clips together and playback 4K timelines smoothly. And it can check email.
Clermond
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puredrifting
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I guess it depends on what level you edit at, and how complex, big, messy and sprawling your projects are, editing on the road versus back at the office, etc. For me and for the pro editors I work with, 13" screen is just not enough real estate to see what you are doing,
but yes, hooking up an external monitor would help but then I am wondering why not just use my iMac 27", which I love so much I now have two of them, a 2018 and a 2020, if it's editing in the office.
I guess if full travel was back in effect possibly, great size for editing on a plane but I haven't edited on a plane in years, although I used to quite often. The 26 hour flight to Cape Town gave me enough time to edit an entire show ;-) and then review dailies of what I shot in South Africa on the way back.
To me, the whole editing on a laptop in your office seems counterintuitive, even with external monitors, I like the iMac too much.
but yes, hooking up an external monitor would help but then I am wondering why not just use my iMac 27", which I love so much I now have two of them, a 2018 and a 2020, if it's editing in the office.
I guess if full travel was back in effect possibly, great size for editing on a plane but I haven't edited on a plane in years, although I used to quite often. The 26 hour flight to Cape Town gave me enough time to edit an entire show ;-) and then review dailies of what I shot in South Africa on the way back.
To me, the whole editing on a laptop in your office seems counterintuitive, even with external monitors, I like the iMac too much.
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NorBro
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On a related note...
After 6 years last month, I am finally retiring my Early 2014 MacBook Air after 2700 battery cycles.
I could probably still get another 6 months out of the battery, although it would be barely usable as each day would go on (it just recently switched to "Replace Soon" and sometimes says "Replace Now" under a heavy load).
What a machine it has been.
4 countries, 22 states or so, endless planes, hotels, cabs, lobbies, productions...my favorite and most used computer by far.
I purchased it around the same time I purchased an URSA and edited so many 4K ProRes projects on it in FCP X ("Better Performance") with blazing speed.
"On that thing?" I would hear from random curious specimens over the years.
Yes, indeed...with a benchmark around 600 compared to the 2020's 1700. lol
This isn't goodbye, friend...it's a 'see you later'.
After 6 years last month, I am finally retiring my Early 2014 MacBook Air after 2700 battery cycles.
I could probably still get another 6 months out of the battery, although it would be barely usable as each day would go on (it just recently switched to "Replace Soon" and sometimes says "Replace Now" under a heavy load).
What a machine it has been.
4 countries, 22 states or so, endless planes, hotels, cabs, lobbies, productions...my favorite and most used computer by far.
I purchased it around the same time I purchased an URSA and edited so many 4K ProRes projects on it in FCP X ("Better Performance") with blazing speed.
"On that thing?" I would hear from random curious specimens over the years.
Yes, indeed...with a benchmark around 600 compared to the 2020's 1700. lol
This isn't goodbye, friend...it's a 'see you later'.
That sort of thing doesn't "just work" because they're related; they need dedicated and carefully optimized software and infrastructure. Given the way that they'd end up connecting to each other, the odds of getting a real benefit from that for most applications are slim; the best case is as a distributed render farm or something along those lines, where there is no need for interactivity. Send a frame, wait for the render, download it and stuff it into the sequence.
For realtime, the infrastructure technology would be prohibitive. They weren't designed for that.
Apple's server and SAN products didn't sell for reasons that had next to nothing to do with the technology. The Apple reps proclaimed that they should sell like hotcakes because they were cheaper than the Dell, EMC (Dell subsequently acquired EMC), etc solutions... but didn't account for the fact that Apple's price was for the hardware. The Dell/EMC price includes installation and high availability on-site support -- by which I mean if a disk fails, a tech will show up with a new one and replace it for you, usually within four hours.
If Amazon moves to ARM it will most likely be from a server vendor rather than from Apple, and that's if Apple even wants to get into that market.
AMD is already putting a hurt on Intel. It topped 60% of several market segments that Intel used to dominate... the only big one that Intel is still dominating in is mobile gaming, and that's only because the Zen gaming laptops haven't started shipping yet.
Run&Gun
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You made me curious about my mid-2012 (1st gen)RMBP that is now probably eight years and two months and has been my primary(and only computer since then).
Full charge capacity: 7089 mAh
Remaining capacity: 6939 mAh
Cycle count: 143
Condition: Normal
Amazon has moved onto the ARM infrastructure several years ago with the Graviton series chips, now in their second iteration. They're a major player already and will likely seek alliances with Microsoft on the consumer front or Linux (Red Hat, Ubuntu, their own Linux2) on the server end.
Like I said earlier, this is turning into a real free-for-all.
NorBro
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haha...that is pretty much brand new.
My 2015 MBP has 580 cycles.
The MBA was really glued to my hip, which is why such an upcoming powerful and lightweight/thin MBA has me lit up.
Run&Gun
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At home, my RMBP is pretty much plugged up 24/7 and even when I use it on the road, I usually plug it up, too. And I've gotten to the point, now, I'll just carry my iPad Pro 12.9" with me if I'm not going to need to transfer footage or the like. I had a turn 'n burn to Phoenix last weekend and just took my iPad to save space and weight since I was also carrying my big cam batts in my backpack and I'd only be doing some minor web surfing at the hotel for a few hours.
It's definitely not a major player in the ARM market. It's only commissioning Gravitons for its own use, and at least in the first iteration, didn't do much with them other than use them as leverage to get a better deal out of Intel. Amazon does sell a lot of Kindles, but they're not exactly competitors to the iPad and Surface tablets. An iPad might awkward for editing on due to the interface, but just try even basic editing on any Kindle.
Amazon doesn't make servers for sale, and it's hard to see a motivation for it to get into that market when most of its profit comes from its cloud services. I don't expect Amazon to ever be a major player in the market, no matter how many of its own datacenters it converts to ARM.
Agreed. And I also expect that to continue. And if anything become more intense as nVidia ramps up its CPU investments and R&D and AMD adds fPGAs to its product portfolio and Intel heads even more into the foundry business.
filmguy123
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I can't think clearly enough on the smaller laptop screens to be truly productive. Or in a pressurized airplane cabin for that matter. Maybe my body is sensitive to it, but I always used to grossly over-estimate my planned productivity in flight. My head feels too stuffy on a plane, so the combo of both is rough. The difference between a 15" screen and being at home on a triple monitor setup with large screens is night and day difference for the creative flow as well as the technical side of things. At least for me, it frees the mind to think more freely and creatively when everything is large, open, laid out - I can get into a flow state that way.
That said I always edit on the road and find it essentially - but for me, it's always more the logging/organizing/rough cutting and the general big picture stuff, plus some tinkering with technical things to dial in initial looks or what not. I've never been able to truly get into an edit and actually finish something meaningful on an airplane.
NorBro
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You need first class or some kind of nice business option to be able to really sink into editing. Not only for concentration but elbow room as well. It's difficult to edit in coach...best case scenario is sitting by the aisle next to someone who favors the window while sleeping.