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I'll beat this dead horse one more time -

You could automatically transcode in FCPX ProRes proxies or - for more space savings - H264 at 50% or 25% of your capture resolution. (Yes, that can be an issue for checking critical focus, so this solution may not work for everything.) That terabyte of footage becomes 100GB or less of proxies on your laptop. You do your offline edit on the plane and reconnect to your external back in the office (or load the Library file onto your iMac) to do the online finishing. And I'm sure Resolve has similar functions.

This is what I do with the FS7 or UMP or whatever footage I receive
 
Everyone definitely knows that and has been doing it since FCPX came out in 2011 and it's for sure the best way to do it (especially since the process has improved).

But in my case it was about editing immediately, native files (if you could get them all on the drive).
 
ahalpert said:
I'll beat this dead horse one more time -

You could automatically transcode in FCPX ProRes proxies or - for more space savings - H264 at 50% or 25% of your capture resolution. (Yes, that can be an issue for checking critical focus, so this solution may not work for everything.) That terabyte of footage becomes 100GB or less of proxies on your laptop. You do your offline edit on the plane and reconnect to your external back in the office (or load the Library file onto your iMac) to do the online finishing. And I'm sure Resolve has similar functions.

This is what I do with the FS7 or UMP or whatever footage I receive
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I have done proxy workflows, but to also beat a dead horse, I don't edit anymore, so I only want to see the raw negatives. So, I don't use proxies at all. External SSD's are a godsend for what I do.

All my editor friends have the biggest fattest fastest laptop with 4TB internal SSD or whatever. In fact they often have a few computers, pads, and laptops. Me giving them any pointers would be about as tasteless as them telling me how to do my job. But since this is a film makers forum with an emphasis on cameras, I am just sharing my opinions on how I am using computers these days. I only recently started enjoying the 13". Prior to this year, I was all about that 15-17" laptops. But I was coming from the mindset of editing and graphics work. Now, a big clunky machine would just be another thing to lug around. 16" is nice, and I never would have thought a 13" was enough, or that a 15"-16" laptop was any more cumbersome, but I am finding that there is a big enough difference, that I am strongly considering just going with a 13" MBP M1.

I'm with Cleremond on this one. At the beginning of this year, I acquired a friends old MBP13", and have really enjoyed it. Kind of surprised myself.
 
NorBro said:
Everyone definitely knows that and has been doing it since FCPX came out in 2011 and it's for sure the best way to do it (especially since the process has improved).

But in my case it was about editing immediately, native files (if you could get them all on the drive).
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In that case, I agree that it's hard to beat the thumb drive you linked to. though I'm not a fan of having a rigid protrusion sticking out like that. But between that and a cabled drive velcroed to the screen, it's a tough call.

What would be elegant would be a base unit to go underneath or a sleeve to go around the whole computer that somehow contains the extra memory and connects through the base of the computer. Not that that's presently feasible.

Where are we with direct wireless interface for external hard drives?
 
If it's wireless, the hard drive would ideally be the cloud.

Straight from camera into the cloud or into the laptop.

Sync communication with FCP X and camera...and watch import window bring up your footage and ingest everything straight to your internal SSD. Or make proxies while original camera data stays in camera/on media.

Ha...that'd be something.
 
What if you have no internet connection? and is there a speed advantage to having the drive in your pocket or your backpack a couple feet away from the computer? What is the throughput on bluetooth or whatever else is available?
 
NorBro said:
Everyone definitely knows that and has been doing it since FCPX came out in 2011 and it's for sure the best way to do it (especially since the process has improved).

But in my case it was about editing immediately, native files (if you could get them all on the drive).
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The Kippertie 2TB red mags can come with a USB-C port on the side, so they can be used to edit directly even without a redmag reader. And I've scrubbed test footage off the mag, but almost never touch footage until there is at least one back up. I even try to avoid play back from camera in the field. ha!

Andree and I talked about this briefly on the Davinci resolve 17 thread, and that just in the world I work in, I am more likely to do a double or triple back up before scrubbing through the original footage. So, even if I record to an SSD, I'm likely backing it up before doing anything else. Luckily back ups are blazing fast these days with USB3/4 and SSD's.
 
ahalpert said:
What if you have no internet connection? and is there a speed advantage to having the drive in your pocket or your backpack a couple feet away from the computer? What is the throughput on bluetooth or whatever else is available?
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I don't know what's possible...I'm just imagining it in a world with blazing fast [free] internet everywhere and the fastest data transfer speeds for everything.
 
NorBro said:
I don't know what's possible...I'm just imagining it in a world with blazing fast [free] internet everywhere and the fastest data transfer speeds for everything.
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In that case, I might just edit the whole thing in my cerebral cortex after syncing my neuralink with my holographic iPhone XXV. If my brain's memory capacity isn't completely clogged with NSFW by that point
 
James0b57 said:
The Kippertie 2TB red mags can come with a USB-C port on the side, so they can be used to edit directly even without a redmag reader. And I've scrubbed test footage off the mag, but almost never touch footage until there is at least one back up. I even try to avoid play back from camera in the field. ha!

Andree and I talked about this briefly on the Davinci resolve 17 thread, and that just in the world I work in, I am more likely to do a double or triple back up before scrubbing through the original footage. So, even if I record to an SSD, I'm likely backing it up before doing anything else. Luckily back ups are blazing fast these days with USB3/4 and SSD's.
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If you can keep the mag inside of the camera (I don't know what it looks when it's being used), that's pretty amazing.

I pictured TB on cameras in the past where you can keep the media inside the camera, and the above seems like what I envisioned except it's on the mag (which again might be able to stay inside the camera).
 
I do kind of wish that the MBP had kept an SD card slot. The latest or upcoming sd card standards are really fast and that would be such an easy and unobtrusive way to pop in a couple of TBs
 
NorBro said:
If you can keep the mag inside of the camera (I don't know what it looks when it's being used), that's pretty amazing.

I pictured TB on cameras in the past where you can keep the media inside the camera, and the above seems like what I envisioned except it's on the mag (which again might be able to stay inside the camera).
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oh, for the Kippertie red mags, you still have to remove the media from the camera, just that the mag itself can plug directly into any USB-C port and be used as an external drive.
 
ahalpert said:
I do kind of wish that the MBP had kept an SD card slot. The latest or upcoming sd card standards are really fast and that would be such an easy and unobtrusive way to pop in a couple of TBs
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Velcro on the top of your laptop and attach the card read to your lid. boom. ;)
 
ahalpert said:
I do kind of wish that the MBP had kept an SD card slot. The latest or upcoming sd card standards are really fast and that would be such an easy and unobtrusive way to pop in a couple of TBs
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That's why a universal cable connection is better.

With SD, CFast, CFexpress, XQD, REDmags, SxS...it gets out of hand.
 
James0b57 said:
yes, exactly. Just meant that we can now edit directly from a redmag if we want to.
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It's funny for me to learn about that now in 2020 about those REDmags (I don't follow them) because that's what all Blackmagic users did in 2012 with the BMCC (later BMPC) and SSD/SATA.

The BMPC is actually why I have so many SSDs and SATA adapters that I still use today.

And it was already ProRes so you can imagine the delight for some (and how fast you can get things done as the files didn't even need to be imported).
 
NorBro said:
That's why a universal cable connection is better.

With SD, CFast, CFexpress, XQD, REDmags, SxS...it gets out of hand.
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At this point, I am beginning to accept that fact. I'd still like an SD card and a USBA connector, but there are so many different cards and connectors these days, I am ready to move on to USBC only for a while.
 
NorBro said:
It's funny for me to learn about that now in 2020 about those REDmags (I don't follow them) because that's what all Blackmagic users did in 2012 with the BMCC (later BMPC) and SSD/SATA.

The BMPC is actually why I have so many SSDs and SATA adapters that I still use today.

And it was already ProRes so you can imagine the delight for some (and how fast you can get things done as the files didn't even need to be imported).
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Certainly.

Red did do HDD drives as "mags" well before 2012, on the RED One. However, even if I shoot direct to SSD, there are few projects I do that I would be risking file corruption, by not doing a back up first.

I think Andree was also saying how many people who edit off SSD directly can sometimes forget which project was on which SSD and end up recording over an entire edit. I doubt you have that problem. But for me, I just have no need to edit direct from the drive, unless it is something random and quick I need to check out. So, I'd rather just keep things separated and organized. Not that I am all that organized.

Even though the Kippertie mags can be used as external drives, and Red can record baked Prores, they cost nearly $2K, so more likely to avoid over using them, and preserve them for just recording footage and transferring to $100-$300 SSD's. More about data integrity, if that even matters any more. Technically, repairing a redmag should be easy and cheap, just swap out the internal SSD, but I digress.

But certainly, the turn arounds on some projects benefit from editing directly from the SSD "mag". If for no other reason than convenience.
 
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