Apple dumps Intel and shows Final Cut Pro on new Mac with Apple CPU !

That's what some of the YouTubers' videos in this thread have since they don't have the 16GB ones yet.

Which is even more impressive.
 
Apple makes a killing on the upgrades. There are only two things you can upgrade on the mini ram and storage.
$669 8gb, 256gb storage (base model)
$1,699 16gb, 2tb

The ram/ssd drive cost 3x the price of the computer ($1,000 to add 8gb ram and 2tb drive). I had to hold the line at 1tb drive and 16gb ram. I imagine they dropped the price of the base model because nobody wants a computer with a 256 drive and 8gb that can't be upgraded.
 
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Each model has the same paths:

8GB - 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, 2TB
16GB - 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, 2TB

If you're getting a Mac Mini, you're most likely staying put and the 256GB is highly attractive as you can use external drives much easily with it than with laptops (unless your laptops live on a desk).

$699, now $669 is nuts (8GB).

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Truth is...99% would most likely be A-okay with 8GB for their tasks, but the small sum for the upgrade to 16GB is a no-brainer.
 
The M1 style processor, I wonder what this mean s for future cameras? Can they finally become smart and not totally suck at battery life?

Apple now has ProRaw in their iPhones.
 
James0b57 said:
The M1 style processor, I wonder what this mean s for future cameras? Can they finally become smart and not totally suck at battery life?

Apple now has ProRaw in their iPhones.
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Kinefinity has been doing a pretty good job on the battery life front for a while now. And the Mavo Edge has a power draw of something like 35 watts even though it can record a full 45 megapizel 135 frame at 48fps...
 
Tamerlin said:
Kinefinity has been doing a pretty good job on the battery life front for a while now. And the Mavo Edge has a power draw of something like 35 watts even though it can record a full 45 megapizel 135 frame at 48fps...
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Thank you sir. I got to spend a little time with the Mavo LF, and was impressed. Start up and battery life were insanely good compared to Red. Would put it in the class of the F55 or so. It did lack in dynamic range. so, no framing the florescent tube in the same shot it is the key light in. It's colours have a nice feel.
 
Peter C. said:
Apple makes a killing on the upgrades. There are only two things you can upgrade on the mini ram and storage.
$669 8gb, 256gb storage (base model)
$1,699 16gb, 2tb

The ram/ssd drive cost 3x the price of the computer ($1,000 to add 8gb ram and 2tb drive). I had to hold the line at 1tb drive and 16gb ram. I imagine they dropped the price of the base model because nobody wants a computer with a 256 drive and 8gb that can't be upgraded.
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In the reviews I have seen so far, 8GB is a bit of a bottle neck for larger video files and edits. Def need to wait for the 16GB minimum for video work, IMHO
 
James0b57 said:
Thank you sir. I got to spend a little time with the Mavo LF, and was impressed. Start up and battery life were insanely good compared to Red. Would put it in the class of the F55 or so. It did lack in dynamic range. so, no framing the florescent tube in the same shot it is the key light in. It's colours have a nice feel.
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The feedback I've seen/heard regarding Kinefinity cameras has been pretty positive. The first model took some flak for usability, and Kinefinity listened and improved. Same goes for its color science. The footage I've seen from Kinefinity cameras has been quite good, and the control system on its more recent camera models has been pretty nice.

It seems like Kinefinity has also improved in the dynamic range department, based on the specs for the Mavo Edge, but it isn't as far as I know shipping yet.
 
James0b57 said:
In the reviews I have seen so far, 8GB is a bit of a bottle neck for larger video files and edits. Def need to wait for the 16GB minimum for video work, IMHO
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The MBP really should have 32GB to earn the "pro" monicker, to be honest. But I need a mac to run Colour Lab Studio, and the M1 machines are the only macs I've seen in years that aren't either stupidly overpriced, stupidly underconfigured, or more commonly, both.
 
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The MBP really should have 32GB to earn the "pro" monicker, to be honest. But I need a mac to run Colour Lab Studio, and the M1 machines are the only macs I've seen in years that aren't either stupidly overpriced, stupidly underconfigured, or more commonly, both.
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Yes and yes!

It is both the most amazing leap in mobile and affordable computing, and also a step back in "pro".... for now. 16GB is riding that razor's edge, but also for the time being, it is cheap enough that one could upgrade in a year or two.


The only thing getting me right now, is that, maybe I should just get an eGPU and bulk up on RAM. My laptop is fine for field transfers and pulling up footage, and my desktop just needs a better GPU. Seeing the reviews, the MBP 13 M1 struggles with Redcode at full or 100% quality.
 
James0b57;1986849456 It is both the most amazing leap in mobile and affordable computing said:
The biggest surprise is that Apple actually delivered real performance and reasonable pricing instead its usual modus operandi of introducing a ridiculous price and one hokey and largely useless benchmark that made their systems look good, even though no one in the real world ever used that. Much like the 8-bit Photoshop filter performance for altivec, which was mediocre for just about any real world use, but screamed in that one oddball use case that was relevant to basically no one.

The prices were as much a surprise to me as the performance; no only is it actually pretty good perf wise, the pricing isn't the usual "we're better because we charge a ridiculous premium for the same thing everyone else is selling you because we have a chewed fruit logo on ours" drivel.

The only thing getting me right now, is that, maybe I should just get an eGPU and bulk up on RAM. My laptop is fine for field transfers and pulling up footage, and my desktop just needs a better GPU. Seeing the reviews, the MBP 13 M1 struggles with Redcode at full or 100% quality.
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My situation is a litttle different, because my laptop is a beast, and does fine for field transfers. It's not exactly eminently field friendly though (it's a tad bulky and the power supply is a 230 watt brick).

Still, the main reason I'm looking at a mac is for Colour Lab Studio. My main I mean only, but since the M1 MBP actually performs, I might use it to replace my field system. And use it on travel trips like in the Himalayas...
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Tamerlin said:
Still, the main reason I'm looking at a mac is for Colour Lab Studio. My main I mean only, but since the M1 MBP actually performs, I might use it to replace my field system. And use it on travel trips like in the Himalayas...
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In particular that performance with that battery life. gosh, I remember trying to edit something in an airport once, and couldn't find a plug (was a while back, seems there are plugs for devices in modern airports now) and it was nerve wracking. But being out in nature or traveling between villages in India, even more so.
 
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... Seeing the reviews, the MBP 13 M1 struggles with Redcode at full or 100% quality.
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It'll be up to Red to maximize its codec for ARM. Apple may not throw a brick in Red's spokes but it's not going to extend a helping hand either. (of course, the developing kit is open source)
 
DLD said:
It'll be up to Red to maximize its codec for ARM. Apple may not throw a brick in Red's spokes but it's not going to extend a helping hand either. (of course, the developing kit is open source)
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Yes, RED and Apple are doing the Metal thing. But I am still uncertain if the M1 integrated graphics processor supports Metal.

I may be better off with an eGPU after all. As I can get 64GB RAM and a passable Radeon card for less than an M1 Mac mini.

Plus, the 2019 Mac mini has all those nice built in I/O ports. Even with an eGPU taking p on of the TB ports. haha. And if I wanted to get tricky, I can force a Red Rocket to be compatible with the 2019 Macs, but not with the M1. RR's are cheaper than eGPU's at this time.
 
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In particular that performance with that battery life. gosh, I remember trying to edit something in an airport once, and couldn't find a plug (was a while back, seems there are plugs for devices in modern airports now) and it was nerve wracking. But being out in nature or traveling between villages in India, even more so.
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Yeah... power was the biggest challenge on that trip. Several villages in the region around the Kye Monastary didn't have particularly reliable power grids.
 
I'm still trying to sort out what I should buy for dual display for the the mac mini. What drives me crazy about Apple nothing is ever straight forward. For instance I can't simply buy a monitor I want, I have to research if it's compatible. I ran across this video today https://youtu.be/KXIKRLLVCw4 this guy specializes on BenQ monitors. You can jump to 7:45. The gist of what he saying many monitors aren't fully compatible with the new mac mini even when they have a thunderbolt usbc. It works but only in 30mhz not 60. Maybe they'll will fix it but who wants to spend $1,500 to only find out the refresh rate is terrible. He also goes on to say that the color calibration doesn't work either and that's the main reason for getting an expensive monitor that it's color accurate.
 
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Yeah... power was the biggest challenge on that trip. Several villages in the region around the Kye Monastary didn't have particularly reliable power grids.
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Oh wow! Beautiful region! That sounds amazing! Would love to visit Northern India. I spent about 2months in East India, such a different place form other parts of India. Wonderful though.
 
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