Anyone having card speed issues, please try again without native 24p

surfer030303 said:
He don't start same discussion as Car3o is doing with others... I've tryed lower bitrates first (a, b, and c) with Native24/25p and cam crashed or freeze... And you know what, I don't care about native cause the result is better with the wrapped 25/50i and especially when I am editing FHD (1980x1080) on EDIUS. However thanks.
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Did edius fix it's issues with properly editing 24p gh1 footage encased in 60i?
Last time I sued it it was confirmed it losses resolution and does not work correctly.

Never heard back from the engineers after that.
 
from what everyone 'pro' says you should go to cineform digital intermediate on pc or prors on mac if you are doing serious editing anyway but the 24p native is nice for certain projects you just want to edit natively quickly if your computer has the horsepower which mine does.
 
surfer030303 said:
He don't start same discussion as Car3o is doing with others... I've tryed lower bitrates first (a, b, and c) with Native24/25p and cam crashed or freeze... And you know what, I don't care about native cause the result is better with the wrapped 25/50i and especially when I am editing FHD (1980x1080) on EDIUS. However thanks.
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Same here but I've switched over to CS5 which also does fine with pulldown. I use the B settings with native 24p unchecked and it works great.

I noticed that it only crashed with the kit lens on constant AF. With any prime I used it wouldn't crash. Probably due to shallow DOF.

Anyway.. my mud is gone, I can edit just fine in CS5 with no pulldown... All is groovy and stable for hours of constant shooting.
 
For those of you having crash issues, this is probably not it, but are you all sure you formatted your cards after the upgrade to the new hacked firmware? In my excitement when I first installed it, I did not, and I was getting either no change in bitrate or camera freezes, then formatted and all has been peachy non mud beautifulness since.
 
Blackout said:
For those of you having crash issues, this is probably not it, but are you all sure you formatted your cards after the upgrade to the new hacked firmware? In my excitement when I first installed it, I did not, and I was getting either no change in bitrate or camera freezes, then formatted and all has been peachy non mud beautifulness since.
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It is it. I've done it several times... formatted in cam between patches. I can leave all setting stock and just change to 24pN and it'll crash. Reformat, change back to 24p over 60i and even up the bitrate and it won't crash all the way up to C settings.

Same exact settings.. 24pN = Crash... 24p /60i.. No crash.

This is with a Patriot LX 16gb class 10 card.

(testing card now)

Crystal Disk Mark reports:
15.31 MB/Sec read
14.29 MB/sec write
 
Blackout said:
Did edius fix it's issues with properly editing 24p gh1 footage encased in 60i?
Last time I sued it it was confirmed it losses resolution and does not work correctly.

Never heard back from the engineers after that.
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It depends on which Edius you used. I am using the 5 with last upgrades. And my "pro" editing works perfect choosing 1980x1080 in 25p.
 
Here the results for :

40,46,50 with Native 24p/25p > FHP worked and SH worked
50,52,60 with Native 24p/25p > FHP worked and SH worked

I am going to increase bitrate to see. Resluts to come.
 
So I tried :
60,66,70with Native 24p/25p > FHP cam freezed and SH worked.
Using a SANDISK Extreme III class 6 and 16 GB card for all above tests.
 
Last test working :
50,56,60, Native 24p/25p > FHP worked and SH worked
Long shots about 5/6mn on tripod and handheld.
Filming static view and trees with wond in leaves. No mud.
Using a SANDISK Extreme III class 6, 16 GB card.
I think am going to stay on these settings so far.
 
All is good for me and I am a happy camera. I noted that the camera that it kept failing on said made in china on the bottom, mine says made in japan.
 
surfer030303 said:
Last test working :
50,56,60, Native 24p/25p > FHP worked and SH worked
Long shots about 5/6mn on tripod and handheld.
Filming static view and trees with wond in leaves. No mud.
Using a SANDISK Extreme III class 6, 16 GB card.
I think am going to stay on these settings so far.
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Surfer, can you please download StreamEye Pro trial from http://www.elecard.com/download/ and post the screenshot here of stream analysis screen for static and panning shots?

Thanks.
 
I am really starting to hate this camera and Panasonic all together...

I specially bought a new card, sundisk class 10 16 gig.

50,56,60, Native 24p/25p > FHP is not working ( freeze with card error "motion stopped due to card limitation bla bla)

also the same with B setting.

Nothing else fail, but if it fail from this chart, it can fail unexpectedly on important shooting...

I don't want to work with no native!
I hate the wrapper!


Surfer, have you tired to shoot the graph using a tripod with this settings?


Ok, now I tired with native only and not to patch nothing of the AVCHD patches, chart on tripod is working, no fail!

What is going on here???
 
surfer030303 said:
Last test working :
50,56,60, Native 24p/25p > FHP worked and SH worked
Long shots about 5/6mn on tripod and handheld.
Filming static view and trees with wond in leaves. No mud.
Using a SANDISK Extreme III class 6, 16 GB card.
I think am going to stay on these settings so far.
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The 50-56-60 vs "C" settings of 50-52-60. What was the measurable difference
between the two- taking the middle number from 52 to 56 did what for the image quality etc?

Pappas
 
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