Anyone get a A7siii yet?

Bassman2003 said:
Don't you need the CFexpress cards for 1080p240? That would be a more used mode than the uber all-I for me.
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Well, you can record it in a time base of 120 or 60p but not 30 or 24. So I suppose I am limiting my MB/frame. But I dont plan on shooting a lot of HD240p especially since I think the readout on the 4K120p is fundamentally cleaner.
 
Bassman2003 said:
I could not find much info on this other than hearing this in some of the reviews I watched.
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Yeah theres definitely a lack of clarity on some things.

I was able to record HD240fps earlier today to an SD card in a 60p and 120p timebase but not 24p or 30p. I forget what the 24p bitrate was. Probably 50Mbps. So 10x slow motion would yield 500Mbps of real time recording whereas the 60p timebase at same bitrate yields only 200Mbps.

It would be nice to have an H265 HD 240fps option but there isn't any.
 
Thanks for your info. What speed of SD card were you using? This is good news to me as the 1080p240 mode would mainly be the reason to go for the CFexpress cards. I can live with the 60p timebase and long GOP recording options. It looks like a V60 card is the best bang for the buck.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Thanks for your info. What speed of SD card were you using? This is good news to me as the 1080p240 mode would mainly be the reason to go for the CFexpress cards. I can live with the 60p timebase and long GOP recording options. It looks like a V60 card is the best bang for the buck.
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You need a CFexpress card to record all-I HD 240p. You can record all-I HD 120p with a V90 card. (The camera displays a message listing the minimum acceptable media required if the present card is insufficient for the setting you select.)

You can record HD long-gop 240fps with a V60 card.

I have been using Lexar v60 128GB 1000x cards. These have recorded unlimited 400Mbps codec on the GH5 for me.

What's kind of dumb/crippled about the A7SIII is that it will not enable me to record any all-I 4K video without a cfexpress-A card.

But it will allow me to record 280Mbps 4K120p long-GOP H265 with my V60 card.

All-I 4K 24p is only 240Mbps but I cant even select that codec without a CFexpress card in the camera.

This shouldn't be a problem for me as I can get by with long-GOP until someone requests all-I which is rare for me. But it seems clear that they artificially restricted the recording modes in order to sell their overpriced media that no one else currently sells.
 
Thanks for your feedback Abe. Glad to hear the V60 cards do the bulk of the codecs. They are much more affordable and I am also fine with long GOP recording. Looks like I have until mid November before getting a chance at purchasing an a7S III. So Canon has until then to wow me with any firmware updates. Or buy two of the new little Fuji's with an external recorder for less money. Tough to make choices without tryig these cameras. I just want to have a step up from my GH5.
 
Out of curiosity, are you running the firmware V2.6 or newer on your GH5? On my GH5s face tracking AF worked pretty well for me from a gimbal at a wedding last week.
 
I will have to check. I know the last gimbal job I did with the GH5 in March I had FW 2.4 and it performed pretty well. I think I have the latest but I still see the wobble-hunting from time to time. The GH5 is a great camera. If they had put IBIS in the GH5s I would never have considered an upgrade. But such is life...
 
I never tried AF on the GH5 with a native lens but my tests of the S1 with the native 24-105 were so bad that I basically gave up on the notion of Panny AF, especially since I thought that S1 AF was nominally improved upon GH5 AF. I suppose firmware updates can make a big difference. It was just so slow to catch up.

But both cameras can identify and box a face readily

I just got the samyang 85 1.4 and 18 2.8 and I'm so excited to try the AF. Not sure if they have the latest firmware though and my lens dock is coming with the 35 1.4 next week.

Omg 85 1.4 with fast af could be sweet
 
ahalpert said:
What's kind of dumb/crippled about the A7SIII is that it will not enable me to record any all-I 4K video without a cfexpress-A card.

All-I 4K 24p is only 240Mbps but I cant even select that codec without a CFexpress card in the camera.
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I have a ProGrade v90 128GB card in our A7siii. I can select XAVC S-I 4K 60 fps with it.

That's 600M 4:2:2 10 bit.
 
My bad - I had proxy record on. If you turn off proxy record, it says it will let you record all-I 4K with a V90 card.

And in s&q long-gop HD you can do 240fps into a 24p 50Mbps timebase with no proxies using a V90 card.

Man these requirements for different configurations can be confusing. But it seems like a V90 card can handle all codecs. But there are some codecs that you would need a cfexpress-a card in order to simultaneously record proxies. And you can get away with V60 cards for all framerates and resolutions if you shoot long-gop.
 
Received mine yesterday. Literally picked up the UPS package on the way out the door to my job that day, and wound up using it (was set up to roll with my A7RIV, so only slight adjustment necessary). Works a treat with the K3M. It was very quaint doing a professional job with the retro handycam "BING" noise upon pressing the record button :D

FWIW, the Zacuto A7RIV cage is pretty much a direct fit, with only the sling eyelet bolt needing adjustment (S3 eyelets are inexplicably smaller internal diameter).

Color response does not look the same as the A7RIV, though. I get to fiddle with matching them now. Full week of travel jobs coming up that'll pair the two. Should be a pretty killer photo/video 2-body pair that can both roll unlimited with custom filenames, one body for photos and other for b-roll, etc etc.
 
mcbob said:
Literally picked up the UPS package on the way out the door to my job that day, and wound up using it
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Wow bro, you are ballsy! :) And you can kill the bing, you know? :)

I have been enjoying "Movie" color and on my shoot today will be experimenting with SOOCing with 5 different picture profiles tuned to different contrast (and one to a different saturation) levels, but all using Movie color. I'm seeing nice results grading s-log2 and s-log3 footage from scratch shot with the Movie color matrix. Of course, the gamut is not as wide and you can't use standard s-log3 s-gamut3.cine LUTs. Next I will be experimenting with LUTs for s-log3/s-gamut3.cine - let me know if you have any recommendations for this camera!
 
Hey...any idea what the warning "This function is currently disabled. Change the lens status or change the lens" means? Button C2 had nothing on it, so I mapped the Focus mag to the button, and when I push it, I get the above message. The focus mag going through the main menu works just fine, though.

I can't find any useful reference to "changing the lens status" in the printed manual or the online help search function.
 
captslomo said:
Hey...any idea what the warning "This function is currently disabled. Change the lens status or change the lens" means? Button C2 had nothing on it, so I mapped the Focus mag to the button, and when I push it, I get the above message. The focus mag going through the main menu works just fine, though.

I can't find any useful reference to "changing the lens status" in the printed manual or the online help search function.
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I'm not sure. But are you sure you successfully remapped the button? It doesn't make sense that you can do something in the menu that you cant do with the button.

Change the lens status may mean flip a switch on the lens itself, like the af/mf switch. Maybe the camera thinks you're stuck in MF because the lens is MF or the switch is set to MF and the function that the button is mapped to requires AF mode
 
Thanks for helping me out!

It appears I made a couple of errors in navigating the labyrinthian Sony menu. I originally set the button while
inside the still photo queue (and even though in the video queue the same button showed "follow still selection" or some such, it was not working.) And then when I got into the "video" button side, I did not initially realize there was the entire panoply of menu items to sift through before making a selection, not just the first 5 or 6 choices that popped up.

In my big Sony cameras, when you went to an assignable button, it gave you one list of viable selections. On the A7S3, it's hundreds across many menus. Always a learning curve. But the good news is, I now have focus mag successfully mapped to the C2 button. Time for a beer!
 
ahalpert said:
If you turn off proxy record, it says it will let you record all-I 4K with a V90 card.
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I had a new issue yesterday when trying to record All-I 4K footage on a new Pro Grade V90 card. Previously, with proxies off, I had no issues at various4K-I frame rates with the ProGrade.

I had remapped a custom button to test gamma assist with S-Log 3 recording. Suddenly, I kept getting an error in camera indicating the a CFexpress card was required to record at any of these 4K-I settings. That was new.

I finally reformatted the ProGrade V90 card, and the warning went away for All-I 4K with the ProGrade.

Apparently the A7Siii can be finicky at times.
 
Wow. When I first got mine, neither of my V90 cards would allow me to record All-I. Then I did something and now they both work. Have no idea what. �� This camera really is the bomb!
 
Couple further observations as I come up to speed on the A7S3: The Prograde V90 128 cards seem to work fine--recorded 4K all-I at 60 FPS for the length of the cards. Nice stopgap until the higher capacity Sony Tough cards start showing up.

Normally, hooking up a monitor to the HDMI port kills the camera LCD display, but there is a workaround. If you go into the HDMI menu and deselect HDMI info, a full frame image shows up on my smallHD 5 in Focus Touch, and the camera monitor stays active. In the touch controls, I can select the Record, Zebra and Waveform tools, and those all show up on the monitor. The Record function shows as a blinking red perimeter box. I can even display TC through the monitor tools.

Otherwise, if I leave the HDMI display "on" in the camera, it kills the LCD and gives me a full info, but somewhat shrunken image on the smallHD.
 
jonpais said:
Wow. When I first got mine, neither of my V90 cards would allow me to record All-I. Then I did something and now they both work. Have no idea what. 😁 This camera really is the bomb!
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Would really appreciate if you dug a little deeper into this one. Have Hoodman V90 128 GB SD cards which are supposed to work for XAVC 4k I on a7s3, but they do not. Any ideas?

Thanks
 
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